What building regs apply to a wooden garage,?

[Big Jimbo]

So Joe, how are the doors and windows fitted. They cant be fixed to the logs because they have to be allowed to grow and shrink with the seasons. The Dunster house One's have clips on the logs, and the doors that allow the logs to expand and contract. 

[joe90]

1 hour ago, Big Jimbo said:

how are the doors and windows fitted.

They are fixed at the bottom and cover strips either side and top allow the “logs” to shrink, there will be a 35mm gap at the top of both to allow this (I will do you a diagram later, tea break in progress 👍).

[Big Jimbo]

@joe90 Going to be sunny. crack of fella. Obviously a better design than dunster house . Pics later 

[joe90]

My team, yes some joints need a little “modification” and some warping but timber is “natural” so it’s going to move a bit. Hopefully weather tight this weekend 🤞

Edited August 19, 2023 by joe90

[SteamyTea]

35 minutes ago, joe90 said:

My team

Well not child labour, so must be modern slavery.

[TonyT]

2 hours ago, joe90 said:

They are fixed at the bottom and cover strips either side and top allow the “logs” to shrink, there will be a 35mm gap at the top of both to allow this (I will do you a diagram later, tea break in progress 👍).

Mine was something similar, I describe it as over sized architraves that are only fixed to the window and doors that let these unit float in the opening, same on both sides 

[joe90]

2 hours ago, Big Jimbo said:

Going to be sunny. crack of fella.

Well that put a jinx on it….raining now 🤯

[Big Jimbo]

Just a shower, to cool you down.

[joe90]

Tiredness stop play today and off to the Indian for some din dins but pleased with progress, some joints needed altering a bit (good job woodwork is my thing!!!!

 

 

[saveasteading]

Interesting. I'd put more wood treatment on those cut ends, however well they say it's treated.

[joe90]

28 minutes ago, saveasteading said:

Interesting. I'd put more wood treatment on those cut ends, however well they say it's treated.

Nothing is treated apart from the base plate (which I also inserted to the plastic battens. Yes I have the wood treatment ready and compressor etc to spray it (so it goes into all the joints). But i will be brushing an additional coat on the cut ends first. I am thinking of using flooring varnish on the inside 🤷‍♂️.

[SteamyTea]

20 hours ago, joe90 said:

I am thinking of using flooring varnish on the inside

While I am always uncertain about using vanished because of the unknown moisture breathability. Not that it will really matter on this as left untreated it would probably last 20+ years.

 

The floor varnish I used on my cheap parquet flooring was a polyurethane one. First time I tried a PU vanish.

Apart from where it is physically worn away, it has lasted very well. Where I had a leak in the kitchen (just a small one that went undetected for a couple of years), the adhesive holding down the parquet failed, causing the timber to swell, then bulge up. That was the sign that there was a leak.

[joe90]

Well a couple of fruitful days and mostly finished, pottering to do with facia,s and eves etc and roof shingles, could not have done it without my Team, my mate and his wife who both worked very hard. Just need to talk to garage door people about what to buy but I think an ordinary up and over will be fine for what I want.

[SteamyTea]

On 14/06/2023 at 20:36, SteamyTea said:

Have glued a bit of ply to it. Hope I held it in place long enough.

Shall see what is what on my next visit.

Remember me doing this, well I am back at the same place, bit of ply still holds firm.

So ten weeks of emmets playing about and no failure.

Not sure how long the bench will be here as the cafe us closing down. Hopefully the benches will stay.

 

Edited August 26, 2023 by SteamyTea

[joe90]

Well the neoprene gasket under the plastic base didn’t work despite being screwed down tight, rain hitting the outside slab runs under it in a few places so I guess I will be using brown silicone 🤷‍♂️

[Gone West]

8 minutes ago, joe90 said:

Well the neoprene gasket under the plastic base didn’t work despite being screwed down tight, rain hitting the outside slab runs under it in a few places so I guess I will be using brown silicone 🤷‍♂️

I put three lines of Stixall under the plastic wood and the rain still ran under in a few places as well. So I sealed the outside of the join of the plasic wood to concrete with Soudal Fixall Crystal Clear and it's been OK since.

[SteamyTea]

Can you jack/crowbar it up an inch or two, then squirt some Lumberjack PU under it.

It expands slightly so will fill the gaps up nicely.

[joe90]

11 minutes ago, SteamyTea said:

Can you jack/crowbar it up an inch or two,

NO, it’s screwed down to the concrete and screws not accessible 

 

1 hour ago, Gone West said:

I sealed the outside of the join of the plasic wood to concrete with Soudal Fixall Crystal Clear and it's been OK since.

Sounds like a plan, just need to wait till it’s dry 👍

[ProDave]

On 20/08/2023 at 16:54, joe90 said:

Just need to talk to garage door people about what to buy but I think an ordinary up and over will be fine for what I want.

I have no regrets getting a cheap ebay electric roller door. It fits on the inside and there is no reduction in the opening area. 

[joe90]

2 hours ago, ProDave said:

I have no regrets getting a cheap ebay electric roller door. It fits on the inside and there is no reduction in the opening area. 

I too had an electric roller door on my last workshop which was brilliant but I don’t have the headroom in this “log” type garage fir one unfortunately.

[joe90]

Sit rep, garage door finally arrived, looks good, now I can fill it with my toys, and I made a matching window to the rear 😎

Edited November 1, 2023 by joe90

[Bruce]

On 01/11/2023 at 12:26, joe90 said:

Sit rep, garage door finally arrived, looks good, now I can fill it with my toys, and I made a matching window to the rear 😎

 

Joe that looks really nice. Me and my partner are looking at doing a garage in the same style as you but I'm worried about planning as it is is within 1m the boundary, bigger than 15m2(ideally) and made of timber. How did you go about your planning permission? And as I presume you went after PP in the end, how did you design the slab? I would like we already have some concrete hard standing under our carport which it will replace but it is not big enough, even enough or high enough so will likely need to add a slab on top of it.

[DevilDamo]

@Bruce The floor area relates to Building Regulations, not Planning. If it’s within 2m of a boundary and under 2.5m high, then it would usually be exempt from Planning. 

Edited October 21 by DevilDamo

[joe90]

On 21/10/2024 at 16:00, Bruce said:

And as I presume you went after PP in the end,

No, PD as under the height restrictions and less than half the garden etc.

On 21/10/2024 at 16:00, Bruce said:

how did you design the slab?

With the help of a very friendly SE who is a member here (who I will ask if he minds advising you) it’s on a consolidated base that was a parking space with gravel .

Edited October 22 by joe90

[Bruce]

13 hours ago, joe90 said:

No, PD as more than a meter from the boundary and less than 30 sq m and under the height restrictions.

With the help of a very friendly SE who is a member here (who I will ask if he minds advising you) it’s on a consolidated base that was a parking space with gravel .

Thank you Joe. After reading this thread once more I think I start to get the difference between the planning and building regs in this matter. I would be delighted to get some help with the design of the slab, even though this might be a spring project as the time just flies away with doing the rest of the house.