zoothorn Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 Good end to the week that. Properly fixed in the frame too.. so I can't undo it now. Thanks chaps. Zooter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 @Onoff one thing I forgot to ask about: the tubes in the walls, have 10mm around them so rain can get in, in theory. Before I put joists in, I can just get access to them. Is there something best forced into these gaps? Obviously I cant ever get access to them once joists put in. Thanks, zoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 17:12, Onoff said: If you are worried you could buy, quite cheaply, half a dozen large dia stainless washers. You will of course need a correspondingly larger hole. This could be made with a sacrificial flat wood bit. There would then be a gap around the spacer you would need to fill of course. Something like Sika EBT I would for piece of mind. Also see comments made on 12th & 15th June ref "siliconing" around the spacer. This was before you'd gone I think with recessing the spacer into the render. Assumed you'd done this already. Will you be able to get in there to do it with the ledger board in the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Big bead of sealer across the top and down the ledger ends, don’t seal the bottom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, Onoff said: Also see comments made on 12th & 15th June ref "siliconing" around the spacer. This was before you'd gone I think with recessing the spacer into the render. Assumed you'd done this already. Will you be able to get in there to do it with the ledger board in the way? Sorry I glossed over this/ didn't click at the time. I can only get a gun tube nozzle into the topside of the upper ones, & underneath for the green lower ones. I need to get a finger or a very thin trowel in the tricky sides. Zh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, markc said: Big bead of sealer across the top and down the ledger ends, don’t seal the bottom. Likely have to be a bloody big nozzle, it's spaced up to 50mm off the wall! The whole idea was to promote air flow around the back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 Chaps, would a bag of postcrete be ok, to fill a cheapo bucket as my two pads? Concrete.. still a subject I find tricky to understand to do one small job like so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 minute ago, zoothorn said: Sorry I glossed over this/ didn't click at the time. I can only get a gun tube nozzle into the topside of the upper ones, & underneath for the green lower ones. I need to get a finger or a very thin trowel in the tricky sides. Zh Exactly how much space is there between the back of the ledger and the wall? A picture says a thousand words, even better hold a tape measure up as you take the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 Just now, Onoff said: Exactly how much space is there between the back of the ledger and the wall? A picture says a thousand words, even better hold a tape measure up as you take the picture. Doing that right now. I hope to dive into town, try ( longshot) get 2 galv bracket things.. some form of concrete.. & this stuff for the wall spacer gaps. Before 12 am! thx zh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 I cant get to the centre top one, at all. But if I silicone my 5mm gap between cill & ledger, before the deck boards go on.. I should be ok just. The rest half I can only get a finger to, on the tricky side as it were. 1 inch mask tale for reference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 You see I can get nozzle under here.. but accessing from above is n/a. I'll buy the sika anyway, use a wet finger or summink. @Onoff could you tell me if postcrete is ok for my bucket-filled concrete pads idea? Thanks, zoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Postcrete is fine, if the concrete will be visible then I would mix well rather than just chucking the water in and letting it set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, Onoff said: Likely have to be a bloody big nozzle, it's spaced up to 50mm off the wall! The whole idea was to promote air flow around the back. Didn’t realise, when I read the bit about sealing I thought It would be better spaced off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 minute ago, markc said: Didn’t realise, when I read the bit about sealing I thought It would be better spaced off Understood- thanks for help today btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, zoothorn said: You see I can get nozzle under here.. but accessing from above is n/a. I'll buy the sika anyway, use a wet finger or summink. @Onoff could you tell me if postcrete is ok for my bucket-filled concrete pads idea? Thanks, zoot Should have "siliconed" it before the ledger went on. Oh well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Wondering at a custom 3D printed nozzle: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4215459 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Onoff said: Should have "siliconed" it before the ledger went on. Oh well! Got a bit excited. The weird nozzles a leftfield idea! I need to do today tho, before weather breaks. So got some Sika sbt+ & will have to wangle it in somehow. Got a postcrete bag, & cheapo buckets. But no galv brackets in town. So.. will have to wait for amazon ones, i 'll buy today. Damn useful link that one Onoff, your help invaluable of course. I can crack on with side outer 6x 2's, the sika job, get the joists in maybe too.. if you think ok to? Or maybe leave this added weight until pillars done . Thanks, Zoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 How are you going to join pillars to 6x2,s? I would do this…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 Buckets.. if Im going for the U bracket with spike, can I use a smaller bucket? A std sized one ( bought 2 but can return).. a bit overkill maybe? There seem to be smaller 10" wide buckets. Better maybe? Less f'ugly. But sufficient support-? Thanks, Zoothorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 hour ago, zoothorn said: Less f'ugly. But sufficient support-? Yes as long as you go down to solid ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Softer ground needs a bigger surface area to spread the load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 hours ago, joe90 said: How are you going to join pillars to 6x2,s? I would do this…. Hi J, yes exactly what I had in mind. On the LHS here, a bit of 8x2 goes as cladding.. just along the front. Video simply has the chap fire thru 2 long torque screws thru both 2" D timbers, & onward into the pillar. Maybe some of my bigass turbo screws. Or your coach bolts idea here is possibly best. A wait on the galv shoe brackets tho. Thx zoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, zoothorn said: exactly what I had in mind. You need to know this so you can place your support thingys in the ground accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, joe90 said: You need to know this so you can place your support thingys in the ground accurately. Yup good reminder thanks J. It'll have to be a weight on a string for my plumbline. Need some luck too. I have good firm clay soil here so I think a smaller bucket will do, as my video chap's size ones too.. except his posts sit fully on the pad, a spike set up to aid the post not slipping off. Thanks, zh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, zoothorn said: It'll have to be a weight on a string for my plumbline. Frankly better in my opinion and very accurate, it’s what I would use 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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