epsilonGreedy Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 I opened up a plug this afternoon to dry it out and inside the wires were colour-coded Red, Black and Green, bliss. It made far more sense. 1
markc Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) After WW2 and a massive leap in the wrong direction when the internet gave idiots a voice Edited October 6, 2021 by markc 1
Onoff Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 Around when British Rail abandoned their nuclear powered flying saucer project? 1
joe90 Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 From what I have read (and I am open to being proved wrong!) the Germans for example still work on the old system of apprentices and investment back into the business, also most Germans prefer to buy Germans made products. We appear to have digressed into buying cheap (china) products and not supporting our own industries. I believe it’s also true that we have the lowest productivity amongst similar nations. Don’t get me wrong I would not want a politicians job for all the tea in China but the country voted to leave the EU, not the gov (there were pro Brexits and remainers in gov). It would appear the pig Industry relied on migrant workers and yes units not the gov,s job to help every failing industry. (I like the old wiring colours too ?) 1
billt Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 Quite a few people are red/green colour blind which gives rise to an obvious safety issue. Harmonising colours throughout europe was a good idea, unless you're a member of the ERG. 1
LA3222 Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 13:38, epsilonGreedy said: I opened up a plug this afternoon to dry it out and inside the wires were colour-coded Red, Black and Green, bliss. It made far more sense. Expand Why does red black and green make it better? Give me brown blue and yellow/green. Harmonisation was a boon. Next you be calling for pounds and inches...worst units of measure going. It's like anything in life, what you grow up using is what makes sense. No one likes change, unfortunately the ship has long since sailed with those kind of changes and we shouldn't revert....the youth don't understand them, only crusty old sods! 1
SteamyTea Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/994866/due-to-an-unrepealed-law-it-is-legal-to-kill-a-welshman-with-a-longbow-in-york I learnt to drive in a LHD car, on the RHS of the road. Does that mean a white car is better than any other colour (or should that be color).
Onoff Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 Red is dangerous all day long. Brown is warm and cuddly...
Temp Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 13:38, epsilonGreedy said: I opened up a plug this afternoon to dry it out and inside the wires were colour-coded Red, Black and Green, bliss. It made far more sense. Expand Before WW2 Black was sometimes earth and Green was sometimes a phase and i think BT used red for earth?
markc Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 15:24, Temp said: Before WW2 Black was sometimes earth and Green was sometimes a phase and i think BT used red for earth? Expand We buy most of our stuff from Italy, white is generally ground/earth, blue is always positive.
joe90 Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 15:04, LA3222 said: only crusty old sods! Expand I think that was the subtly innuendo in @epsilonGreedy and my reply ?. It’s certainly what I grew up with. Saying that mm are far easier than fractions of an inch ?
Carrerahill Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 14:21, billt said: Quite a few people are red/green colour blind which gives rise to an obvious safety issue. Harmonising colours throughout europe was a good idea, unless you're a member of the ERG. Expand Which was why you could not be an electrician if colour blind. I believe the HSE still says you cannot be a electrician if colour-blind however I think you can still actually train as an electrician but you are meant to be aware of your limitations and take steps.
Onoff Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 16:43, Carrerahill said: and take steps Expand If it's high up and out of reach? 1
Onoff Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 You can get some lovely red & black T&E esque cable from ZA... Sadly not quite the same as our old stuff.
ProDave Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 16:50, Onoff said: You can get some lovely red & black T&E esque cable from ZA... Sadly not quite the same as our old stuff. Expand Not long after the new colours came in I found I could sell lengths if red & black removed from a rewire on ebay for more than the cost of new cable.
Onoff Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 17:58, ProDave said: Not long after the new colours came in I found I could sell lengths if red & black removed from a rewire on ebay for more than the cost of new cable. Expand I got given the best part of a reel of 2.5 a short while back oddly enough...
SteamyTea Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 16:43, Carrerahill said: I believe the HSE still says you cannot be a electrician if colour-blind Expand Being left handed is probably just as risky.
Onoff Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 20:07, SteamyTea said: Being left handed is probably just as risky. Expand What about cack-handed?
SteamyTea Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 20:29, Onoff said: What about cack-handed Expand On 06/10/2021 at 15:23, Onoff said: Brown is warm and cuddly Expand 1
ProDave Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 16:43, Carrerahill said: Which was why you could not be an electrician if colour blind. I believe the HSE still says you cannot be a electrician if colour-blind however I think you can still actually train as an electrician but you are meant to be aware of your limitations and take steps. Expand A colour blindness test was part of the medical before I could start my apprenticeship.
Gus Potter Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 13:38, epsilonGreedy said: I opened up a plug this afternoon to dry it out and inside the wires were colour-coded Red, Black and Green, bliss. It made far more sense. Expand Reminds me of my Dad and one of his early warnings about the dangers of electricity. Electric wires, boy pliers, blue flashes.. boy ashes! He spent some time working on radar and had a few "electric thrills" in his time.
SteamyTea Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 20:32, ProDave said: A colour blindness test was part of the medical before I could start my apprenticeship. Expand I had my testicles checked. Not sure why it was necessary to be a tool maker. They left my tool alone.
Gus Potter Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 20:07, SteamyTea said: Being left handed is probably just as risky. Expand What an insult. I'm left handed! When doing DIY electrics I just turn the sockets upside down so the earth pin is closest to the skirting, that sorts any polarity issues. Please always seek professional advice before following mine. 3
Onoff Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 20:45, Gus Potter said: What an insult. I'm left handed! When doing DIY electrics I just turn the sockets upside down so the earth pin is closest to the skirting, that sorts any polarity issues. Please always seek professional advice before following mine. Expand Ground being nearest to ground, makes perfect sense...saves the electricity falling out of the bottom of the plug too. ? 1
SteamyTea Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 20:45, Gus Potter said: What an insult. I'm left handed Expand Me to, at least the electrons have a closer path to the heart. 1
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