nod Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Just thought I’d post this to perhaps help those working out there budget I bumped into a friend who runs a bricklaying business Most of the sites in my area (NW) seem to use these middle men for labour Here’s what he’s paying for site work Stacker and tubed mortar and bricks dropped to work area £600 Per thousand face work Extra for detail £18 m2 block work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, nod said: £18 m2 block work so that'll be about £36/m2 down here in the South East then, if we're lucky. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted June 10, 2021 Author Share Posted June 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, Thorfun said: so that'll be about £36/m2 down here in the South East then, if we're lucky. ? I wouldn’t like to guess Perhaps double Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) Down in the south west, brickie I have been recommended and did a house near me has quoted £19 m2 for easy solid block walls (retaining walls) and £21 m2 for external walls including openings / lintels. This is on a closed area basis, and mortar mixed on site. Seems reasonable to me Edited June 10, 2021 by Moonshine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 54 minutes ago, nod said: I wouldn’t like to guess Perhaps double I have been quoted £50/m2 for labour and materials for internal block walls, in the SE. spoke to another bricklayer and he said that seemed reasonable. hope that gives an indication as to how expensive it is down here. feel sorry for my kids as they won't be able to afford to buy their own houses so luckily there'll be enough room for them to stay with us for as long as they need! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 As I say Probably double Self builders will always have to pay more than site rates Whilst labour rates may seem quite high They are simply catching up other industries Our sons partner has set up for herself as a nail technician First year of trading as a sole trader Her profit was 88k But for the COVID she was set to pass that in her second year There are plenty of jobs that pay well But most involve you being self employed no safety net like an employed person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 10 hours ago, Thorfun said: I have been quoted £50/m2 for labour and materials for internal block walls, in the SE. spoke to another bricklayer and he said that seemed reasonable. hope that gives an indication as to how expensive it is down here. feel sorry for my kids as they won't be able to afford to buy their own houses so luckily there'll be enough room for them to stay with us for as long as they need! Kick them out as soon as you can, you will do them no favours keeping them at home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, nod said: As I say Probably double Self builders will always have to pay more than site rates Whilst labour rates may seem quite high They are simply catching up other industries Our sons partner has set up for herself as a nail technician First year of trading as a sole trader Her profit was 88k But for the COVID she was set to pass that in her second year There are plenty of jobs that pay well But most involve you being self employed no safety net like an employed person £88k ? What is a nail technician? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Water said: £88k ? What is a nail technician? Exactly Lots of Huns out there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, nod said: Our sons partner has set up for herself as a nail technician First year of trading as a sole trader Her profit was 88k She must be working her arse off and/or have very good paying clients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 25 minutes ago, nod said: Exactly Lots of Huns out there ? Zer iz nussing rong viz being a Hun. Vot ver you sinking about making zat comment Gary?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, ToughButterCup said: Zer iz nussing rong viz being a Hun. Vot ver you sinking about making zat comment Gary?? 44 minutes ago, Moonshine said: She must be working her arse off and/or have very good paying clients. She’s a real good girl She trained for 4 years earning about 250 per week working for someone It’s amazing how much women spend on nails She’s booked up for months ahead Even before Covid While building has been ok for me I would do Something different given my time again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 minute ago, nod said: .... I would do Something different given my time again Mmmm, I can just see you lining up a lass's nails using a laser so the stripes can be correct to less than a mil..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, ToughButterCup said: Mmmm, I can just see you lining up a lass's nails using a laser so the stripes can be correct to less than a mil..... Me neither ? I was thinking more along the lines of bat surveyor ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Bat, trees, archaeology.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangti6 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 13 hours ago, Moonshine said: Down in the south west, brickie I have been recommended and did a house near me has quoted £19 m2 for easy solid block walls (retaining walls) and £21 m2 for external walls including openings / lintels. This is on a closed area basis, and mortar mixed on site. Seems reasonable to me Where in the SW are you Moonshine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Water said: Bat, trees, archaeology.. Thad the one At our previous build He arrived in his car with his own personal reg Yep you’ve guessed it Talked about bats for an hour Had a couple of glasses of wine Walked around the plot and said “Yep no bats here “ our contaminated land was even better Masses of detail 3D computer generated model No site visit Warranty Didnt get out of the car to inspect the foundations To muddy inspected the roof from the ground Did say I’d done a grand job Final inspection 10 minutes Didn't look round the house I can only dream ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 hours ago, dangti6 said: Where in the SW are you Moonshine? Devon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, nod said: Thad the one At our previous build He arrived in his car with his own personal reg Yep you’ve guessed it Talked about bats for an hour Had a couple of glasses of wine Walked around the plot and said “Yep no bats here “ our contaminated land was even better Masses of detail 3D computer generated model No site visit Warranty Didnt get out of the car to inspect the foundations To muddy inspected the roof from the ground Did say I’d done a grand job Final inspection 10 minutes Didn't look round the house I can only dream ? Honestly it's true, to rub salt into the wounds the guy turns up in a brand new top of the range G Wagon over £150ks worth of car. FML. Talk about kicking a guy in the plums when he's down. Edited June 11, 2021 by Water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 14 hours ago, nod said: But most involve you being self employed no safety net like an employed person I think this is the safety net 14 hours ago, nod said: First year of trading as a sole trader Her profit was 88k I did a nail technicians course for a laugh about 22 years ago (long story why I did it). Was pretty easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 My old man's on the trowel up your way @nod ain't many weeks he grosses less than 1200 rain or shine. All ready mix and forklift with good health a safety can see why brickies don't want small self build jobs. Not sure about other subbies but he's copped close to 20k in grants this year too I'm guessing he shouldn't really be claiming but you won't convince him of that. Brickies are about the most money orientated trade out there. I think it comes from counting every brick they lay and getting paid accordingly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 34 minutes ago, Oz07 said: My old man's on the trowel up your way @nod ain't many weeks he grosses less than 1200 rain or shine. All ready mix and forklift with good health a safety can see why brickies don't want small self build jobs. Not sure about other subbies but he's copped close to 20k in grants this year too I'm guessing he shouldn't really be claiming but you won't convince him of that. Brickies are about the most money orientated trade out there. I think it comes from counting every brick they lay and getting paid accordingly. Yep A real problem for self builders Companies have the continuity and look after there lads and as already cover down time The problem with Brickies that are doing private work is They will want to earn the same or more per day as your dad and be used to doing half as much per day These are the ones that are available to self builders Same with my business plastering and render Whilst our earnings of around 450 per day might sound high Two guys will skim a five bed house out in three days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 On 10/06/2021 at 22:27, Thorfun said: feel sorry for my kids as they won't be able to afford to buy their own houses They will if they work as bricklayers! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangti6 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Wish I’d got in to a trade. It’s the opportunity to earn that appeals to me as well as reaping what you sow a lot easier than earning your employer a better living. Never too late I suppose, just a lot harder to be able to afford to live on a starting salary whilst learning when you have more outgoings than a youngster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 8 hours ago, Oz07 said: My old man's on the trowel up your way @nod ain't many weeks he grosses less than 1200 rain or shine. All ready mix and forklift with good health a safety can see why brickies don't want small self build jobs. Not sure about other subbies but he's copped close to 20k in grants this year too I'm guessing he shouldn't really be claiming but you won't convince him of that. Brickies are about the most money orientated trade out there. I think it comes from counting every brick they lay and getting paid accordingly. It comes because they hate doing the job mate - worst trade to do all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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