canalsiderenovation Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 We are in the process of getting quotes for a double garage. This is the first one - thoughts? We asked them to exclude the double door, side door and window (one not two) as we will get these ourselves. Also to connect up to water/sewage for a toilet in future (but not connect toilet/sink as we can get these at a later date and do them ourselves after our experience with the plumber I'd rather do it ourselves)! I've no idea what sort of figures we should be looking at so any advice would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I built two DG with our build three years ago I allowed 15k for the neighbors no doors included Double skinned block work slate roof 20 k sounds about right to me 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Looks about £8-9k of materials and same labour - not too far off the mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) A basic garage single skin garage with cheapo roof and floor should come in around £250-£300/m², that quote is closer to 500/m but the filled cavity wall easily accounts for it. Edited March 13, 2021 by Conor Can't count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz07 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Just now, Conor said: A basic garage should come in around £250/m², that quote is slightly more but the filled cavity wall easily accounts for it. Every time I've built one standalone I'm suprised how much they cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Conor said: A basic garage single skin garage with cheapo roof and floor should come in around £250-£300/m², that quote is closer to 500/m but the filled cavity wall easily accounts for it. I actually wonder why they have quoted for a full filled cavity. It's only a garage and we don't need a full filled cavity..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 @canalsiderenovation It's confusing. It says full filled cavity but it also says it doesn't include cost of floor or wall insulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Temp said: @canalsiderenovation It's confusing. It says full filled cavity but it also says it doesn't include cost of floor or wall insulation. Yep it's not entirely clear - will have to double check! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 12 hours ago, canalsiderenovation said: I actually wonder why they have quoted for a full filled cavity. It's only a garage and we don't need a full filled cavity..... why do you need a cavity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliG Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 I priced one up a few months ago for my parents and got to similar numbers. I reckoned £22k with a flat roof, including electric door. The foundations in particular were expensive, I reckon you are looking at £5kish for a concrete base. If you are building a double garage, I would make the door bigger, it will be tight to get two cars through that door. We have changed to a car port, won't be that much cheaper, but you do save on the foundation in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 12 hours ago, AliG said: If you are building a double garage, I would make the door bigger, it will be tight to get two cars through that door I would carefully check all the dimensions. Some architects symbols for tables, beds and cars are on the small side. I think they were designed by estate agents to make houses look bigger on plans ? We ended up having to make our whole garage 1m wider as it wouldnt have been possible to open doors wide enough to get in/out of the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted March 14, 2021 Author Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, joe90 said: why do you need a cavity? I don't know! Do we? 31 minutes ago, Temp said: I would carefully check all the dimensions. Some architects symbols for tables, beds and cars are on the small side. I think they were designed by estate agents to make houses look bigger on plans ? We ended up having to make our whole garage 1m wider as it wouldnt have been possible to open doors wide enough to get in/out of the car. It looks a reasonable size double garage from the plans. The other half would probably put her car in there, especially when she upgrades to a nicer car. The rest of it is needed for lots of garden related items as we have a large plot and when we get a boat (long term future goal) lots of boat related items no doubt and if we do end up with a sink and toilet in there it will be useful if we are gardening etc. I'll have to catch the builder this week and go through things and see if there is any room to negotiate - he will probably expect it from me anyway! Edited March 14, 2021 by canalsiderenovation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 minute ago, canalsiderenovation said: I don't know! Do we? I don't think you do, I would have thought single skin block work with piers would be o.k, assuming there was no thermal requirements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 56 minutes ago, canalsiderenovation said: I don't know! Do we? dare I say NO. we did like @Moonshine says above, single blockwork with piers and is more than adequate. I agree with a big door, mine is 16ft (but I still can’t get my daily car in it as it’s full of “men toys” and “tools” ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliG Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 The interior dimensions are 6x6m which is a decent size. The door as shown however, is only 4.25m wide, 4.15 opening, which is 13'7. Nowhere near big enough if you ever wanted to put two cars in it. However, a bigger door would mean a bigger beam above it and add a bit to the cost. If you are thinking it will be half storage and half garage and you may want to have a toilet etc in there, it might be an idea to put a 2.5-3m door to one side and have the other side clear. Then you could even wall it off at some point. I looked at the cost difference between single and double skin. It wasn't that large by the time you take into account the need for piers etc. Meanwhile you have a much more robust and waterproof building. From memory I think you would save around £1500. If you are just having a single skin steel door, there is no point in insulating the walls. Would probably save around £500. Again though if you are considering spending more time in the garage, it is probably a good idea to have the insulation in there now as then you could actually build a room inside the garage later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted March 14, 2021 Author Share Posted March 14, 2021 47 minutes ago, AliG said: If you are just having a single skin steel door, there is no point in insulating the walls. Would probably save around £500. Again though if you are considering spending more time in the garage, it is probably a good idea to have the insulation in there now as then you could actually build a room inside the garage later. Good point, although unlikely I wouldn't rule out some gym equipment and a pole (before renovation I had a pole for pole fit in the living room as we weren't concerned with damage to ceilings etc but it's not an option now)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonner Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 I am planning a garage so was following this thread. Had to google pole fit, hadn’t thought of that but looks fun ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, canalsiderenovation said: and a pole pole dancing ? ? 1 hour ago, canalsiderenovation said: I wouldn't rule out some gym equipment you may not want insulation with gym equipment, you will get a sweat on!!, my garage is not insulated at all, I wear thermals mid winter if I work out there which is a lot cheaper ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Make sure you get some ducts in before the base is poured to make it easy for power supply? any solar going on it? EV charging? Driveway lights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted March 14, 2021 Author Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, joe90 said: pole dancing ? ? Pole fit - not pole dancing like you would get in strip clubs! Pole fit is difficult and really hard work. 1 hour ago, joe90 said: you may not want insulation with gym equipment, you will get a sweat on!!, my garage is not insulated at all, I wear thermals mid winter if I work out there which is a lot cheaper ? I doubt it! I'm always cold..... When I used to do pole fit in a studio we all wanted the heaters on. Women and the cold.....? 1 hour ago, TonyT said: Make sure you get some ducts in before the base is poured to make it easy for power supply? any solar going on it? EV charging? Driveway lights? No solar on it - no budget for this unfortunately and EV charging is not needed. We already have power to the existing garage/outbuildings but need to make sure we forward plan for electric gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, canalsiderenovation said: I doubt it! I'm always cold Rather than insulate and heat a whole garage fir a short time to do gym/pole workout why not infrared heaters,(like they have outside pubs ) they heat you, not the air just fir the short time their needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted March 14, 2021 Author Share Posted March 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, joe90 said: Rather than insulate and heat a whole garage fir a short time to do gym/pole workout why not infrared heaters,(like they have outside pubs ) they heat you, not the air just fir the short time their needed. Hmm could be an option. Need to weigh up this and speak to the builder about costs and the quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 hours ago, canalsiderenovation said: Pole fit is difficult and really hard work. Pictures might help... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canalsiderenovation Posted March 14, 2021 Author Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Onoff said: Pictures might help... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 34 minutes ago, canalsiderenovation said: Phwoar! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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