Onoff Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, PeterW said: If you’ve never laid bricks then buy one of these. https://bricky.com/building-tools/bricky/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoMTU7NeL7QIVIe_tCh39GQ7FEAQYASABEgJ9dvD_BwE I was pleasantly surprised how good they are - no use for anything non-standard or reclaims but great for smooth engineering bricks. +1. The guy who invented it, Noel, is a pleasure to deal with. I bought a kit years ago and instead of the advertised Marshall trowel it came with a Rolson copy. I emailed him and got a Marshall trowel plus a couple more of his brilliant string line holders and pointing tool. A personal email from him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 Quoted £1500 to dig out, 100mm hardcore, 100mm insulation, 100mm concrete. If I want bricks for no thermal bridge that’s obviously extra £££ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 Separately, local volumetric mixer has quoted £150 for the footings concrete (0.75-1m3) shows you the cost is all the ‘local’ Labour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, daiking said: Quoted £1500 to dig out, 100mm hardcore, 100mm insulation, 100mm concrete. If I want bricks for no thermal bridge that’s obviously extra £££ That’s £1500 to dig a hole and put £450 of stuff in it. £80 of stones, £120 of polystyrene £250 of concrete just checking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangti6 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, daiking said: That’s £1500 to dig a hole and put £450 of stuff in it. £80 of stones, £120 of polystyrene £250 of concrete just checking Is that not £1050 to dig a hole to put £450 of stuff in it, or is it £1500 in labour plus the £450 materials? (tongue in cheek) Edited November 18, 2020 by dangti6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, dangti6 said: Is that not £1050 to dig a hole to put £450 of stuff in it, or is it £1500 in labour plus the £450 materials? (tongue in cheek) You are just being pedantic you know what it means ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, daiking said: Quoted £1500 to dig out, 100mm hardcore, 100mm insulation, 100mm concrete. If I want bricks for no thermal bridge that’s obviously extra £££ I hired an excavator, wacker plate and small dumper. The dumper was needed to move some of the soil i dug out and the concrete from the front of my house around to the back. Also used excavator to dig trench for power cable. Think excavator was about £160 for a weekend. Edited November 18, 2020 by Temp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 Supposed to move the shed today but still not finished my second coffee ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, daiking said: Supposed to move the shed today but still not finished my second coffee ? but have you decided on which floor yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 2 hours ago, joe90 said: but have you decided on which floor yet? First step in the dance is to move the shed to survey the area properly. If it’s like usual the ground will be full of tree roots and organic matter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 I’ve dug out the old shed base and have made a rough guess of where the cabin will sit. the ground is pretty claggy clay and full of root matter from when the garden was completely overgrown. There’s close proximity to a couple of tree, a slight fall left to right and on the right hand side behind the tree and chain link fence it is the bank of a stream. We’ve not had flooding but the highest stream level came up to the base of the chain link fence, approx 100mm below the ground level there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 At the front right corner, I think I’m going to remove the small pine tree and the foundation will run about 1m away from the big tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 At the rear left corner, it’s currently only about 0.4m away from the tree which I imagine will be a little close. I think I will be able to move the position forward a little and rotate around the front right to bring that rear left corner away from the tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) I’m still at a loss as to what sort of base to build. My wife wants a concrete slab but I want it properly insulated. I will struggle to build something straight and level enough. I’m not looking for something super insulated, it’s a 45mm thick log cabin and I won’t be insulating the walls, only the floor and roof. It’s not going to be used all the time so I’m wondering if it would be a mistake to include the slab in the thermal envelope as it will always need heating up when we use it. Whereas a cold slab with insulation on top with a floating floor might be warmer? But I wouldn’t want it to literally float if there was a flood ? I’m looking for the lowest skilled solution. Edited January 2, 2021 by daiking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) I still think ground screws would be best for you/that location with insulated timber timber floor. Any ground heave from flood or roots will have minimal impact.( I prefer woodwork to concrete/bricklaying). I think the cost is worth the lack of hard graft shifting concrete etc, just wind them in to the level you want ?. Edited January 3, 2021 by joe90 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) Low skill solution maybe sit them on a slab to spread the load? then build a timber frame, insulate and apply floor Edited January 3, 2021 by TonyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 What about the way @zoothorn did his? Half a dozen, large dia (barrel sized) concrete plinths. Wooden frame bolted to that. Doesn't take much skill to dig holes, just time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 *sigh* it’s the feeling of solidity she wants with a concrete base - it makes a such a difference in the house. The log cabin sits on a (approx) 50mm thick timber beam around its perimeter when on a slab so I’d expect to put 25mm of PIR on the floor in between timber bearers with a floating chipboard floor on top. (I’m expecting the finished floor to be an engineered wood floor) with that in mind, is there a significant difference in real life with the thermal properties of an insulated slab with insulated upstand inside a short wall or just a shuttered slab with insulation beneath the centre but not at the edges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 28 minutes ago, daiking said: she wants Says it all really !?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_P Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I just dumped my shed (aka office) on a scaffold board timber deck. Built the shed and then lined it all with 40mm pir. I chucked laminate flooring down and it’s solid, no bouncing about. Stays toasty warm with a little £10 oil radiator thingy. Tell her she’ll get what she gets and be grateful about it! ... unless she wants to dig the base and barrow the concrete in. ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 50 minutes ago, Gav_P said: I just dumped my shed (aka office) on a scaffold board timber deck. Built the shed and then lined it all with 40mm pir. I chucked laminate flooring down and it’s solid, no bouncing about. Stays toasty warm with a little £10 oil radiator thingy. Tell her she’ll get what she gets and be grateful about it! ... unless she wants to dig the base and barrow the concrete in. ?? mine wasn’t insulated as it was just for storage but I have just dismantled a very solid shed base with a scaffold board deck. The scaffold boards didn’t do very well that low to the ground ? some rot in the outer edges in my location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 It’s been unusually cold for 2 weeks now so this still isn’t getting done. Was supposed to be marking out a trench for the footings with some string but balls to that at -1 deg. Will be warmer tomorrow in the rain which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_P Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, daiking said: It’s been unusually cold for 2 weeks now so this still isn’t getting done. Was supposed to be marking out a trench for the footings with some string but balls to that at -1 deg. Will be warmer tomorrow in the rain which is nice. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/e9ht6u/bro_tip_wear_a_period_pad_to_keep_your_nuts_warm/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, daiking said: It’s been unusually cold for 2 weeks now so this still isn’t getting done. Was supposed to be marking out a trench for the footings with some string but balls to that at -1 deg. Will be warmer tomorrow in the rain which is nice. Northern pu$$y! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiking Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 20 hours ago, Onoff said: Northern pu$$y! ? I don’t expect to die imminently* so it can way for another die. (*although that would be a small mercy) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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