August 20, 20206 yr So my neighbours have always had issues every since I put planning in . I needed to put a new drain in within the vicinity of a shared boundary . I originally emailed the neighbour with photos from every conceivable angle and that if any damage occurred I would be liable and repair or replace . Chance of anything happening would be near zero as I dug the drain trench by hand and it was a metre away . Neighbour kicked up a fuss and sent us down the party wall act . Total cost of that was around 5k ! Anyway today same neighbour came to me and asked if they could build on top the party wall probably about 60cm . You can imagine my response ... wtf is wrong with people ! . Sure increase the height of the wall via the party wall act . I knew various neighbors would need my consent for any party walls we share , just had to bide my time . Today karma kicked in . Edited August 20, 20206 yr by PeterW Title edit
August 20, 20206 yr Tell them to FO. Better still, sell them your consent for £5k. Edited August 20, 20206 yr by Nickfromwales
August 20, 20206 yr It's amazing the number of people who don't get the concept of not being a dick. It's exactly why I went to some length to get a plot that just had farmers fields as neighbors. Having said that I may regret it when I have to dig 100 meters along one of the fields for electricity.
August 20, 20206 yr 2 minutes ago, Ralph said: It's amazing the number of people who don't get the concept of not being a dick. Completely agree. I believe the psychological term is cognitive dissonance - if an individual does something that they know goes against social or moral norms, they will subconsciously create a narrative that justifies it and just keep doubling down on it when challenged.
August 20, 20206 yr I am a believer in karma, in that bad things tend to happen to bad people and good things tend to happen to good people. I am fortunate in that I have good neighbours and we help each other and pool resources, it is so much easier than being awkward with each other. We have had a brief experience of an awkward neighbour and it is just so counterproductive.
August 20, 20206 yr Just now, Roys said: I am a believer in karma, in that bad things tend to happen to bad people and good things tend to happen to good people. I am fortunate in that I have good neighbours and we help each other and pool resources, it is so much easier than being awkward with each other. We have had a brief experience of an awkward neighbour and it is just so counterproductive. Hmm, I know plenty of good people that have had lots of bad things happen to them and vice versa but I get what you're saying, it helps take the pressure off regardless. Me, I just try and 'shake it off', watching the Taylor Swift video always helps and I try to let the miserable people just get on with it. You're absolutely right that creating a mutually beneficial community is invaluable and increases the stakes of being selfish for an individual.
August 20, 20206 yr Some people just take the piss if your too good, I believe in being helpful but you can go too far !!! @pocster sell them the party wall agreement ?????.
August 20, 20206 yr An eye for an eye, kick up a fuss and send them down the party wall act route .... or you would be prepared to accept an apology .... and £5k
August 20, 20206 yr If it is a party fence wall and will increase overshadowing on you property I would not agree to it. Do they need planning consent? How was the drain affected by the Party Wall Act? Must have been very deep and below their foundation level?
August 20, 20206 yr One question probably for @Mr Punter - does @pocster ultimately have the absolute right to refuse use of the Party Wall - or can his property right be overruled ultimately by the adjudicating third surveyor if the surveyors appointed by each party disagree? I might be inclined to insist on a party wall surveyor and (if possible) enough payment to defray the previous cost. Ferdinand Edited August 20, 20206 yr by Ferdinand
August 20, 20206 yr The Party Wall Act gives rights to owners to undertake works, so there is no right for the adjoining owner to refuse but their position should be protected by the Award. If you want to increase costs for the Building Owner desiring works, appoint your own surveyor (after you have been served appropriate notices) as the general rule is the Building Owner will pay both / all surveyors.
August 20, 20206 yr 55 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: .....when they muck spread ? When they mix in pig slurry it's the worst.
August 20, 20206 yr 5 hours ago, Ralph said: It's amazing the number of people who don't get the concept of not being a dick. ... Explain it to me would ya?
August 20, 20206 yr 5 hours ago, Ralph said: It's amazing the number of people who don't get the concept of not being a dick hahahahaahahahahha
August 20, 20206 yr Just wind them up with some story about wanting to keep the wall low as you need a line of site for a massive amateur radio installation, a view for the occupants of the tents youre erecting to house asylum seekers, and to disperse the noise from your garden of a bagpipe playing Scottish relative who is coming to stay with you. Also it will oppress the rights and discriminate against the local nudist societies over 80s group who will be holding their meetings in your garden.
August 20, 20206 yr I’ve a friend who has an Allotment in a semi rural village The Allotment has been in his family for around 70 years A row of new houses have been built nearby and one of the incomers has complained that my mate cockerels keep crowing and guess what Same bloody time each morning ?
August 20, 20206 yr 1 minute ago, pocster said: I told him to go (expletive deleted) himself and that he was a prick You go, girl. ?
August 20, 20206 yr 35 minutes ago, pocster said: I told him to go (expletive deleted) himself and that he was a prick A perfect message to clear the air for a harmonious and peaceful coexistence. Well done. Did he stay for drinkies?
August 20, 20206 yr Author 1 minute ago, Mr Punter said: A perfect message to clear the air for a harmonious and peaceful coexistence. Well done. Did he stay for drinkies? Strangely enough he just turned his back on me and walked away . I’ve been too nice and complacent with people ( inc tenants ) eventually it always becomes give an inch take a mile . Took photos of the shared boundary wall . If *anything* appears on or near it I’ll jump on that and start litigation . Regardless of the costs - as I’ve learn’t ; to punish is worth any price . (expletive deleted) ‘em !
August 20, 20206 yr He will need to serve notice on you. If you do not accept, the issue is considered in dispute and you can then appoint a surveyor at his expense. If he starts work without serving a notice or having an Award in place you can get an injunction from the High Court. It will cost you initially but you can reclaim the costs plus damages as Judges do not look kindly on people going behind the Act.
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