Robert Clark Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Hi Guys Are semi pedestals for wall hung basins open bottomed to enable pipes to enter from below? The tech drawing of the one I’m looking at doesn’t show if it is Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Post a link. The few I looked at weren't open at the bottom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Clark Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Temp said: Post a link. The few I looked at weren't open at the bottom. https://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/grohe-euro-ceramic-600mm-1th-basin-half-pedestal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryE Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 We've got two; neither open bottom. One is a Grohe, IIRC. They have a couple of special brackets which you screw to the back wall using a template. You then position the semi-pedestal under the basin and a couple of fixings screw through the pedestal into the wall brackets holding the whole thing in position. These have colour matching covers so the whole thing is very neat. We've had no issues with either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Robert Clark said: https://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/grohe-euro-ceramic-600mm-1th-basin-half-pedestal I might be able to load their CAD model. I'll have a go and let you know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Twyford Galerie Plan and is open at the bottom but not by much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Managed to open the cad model of the Grohe and look at the bottom. As suspected it looks like this.. Edited July 7, 2020 by Temp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Just for info.. Grohe use a program called Revit from Autodesk to create their cad models (.rfa files). To view them you need the Revit CAD program or the free Viewer that comes with it. Only problem is the downloaded is 7GB even if you only want the free viewer. I'll leave it installed on my PC for a week or two in case you'd like me to look at some others but after that I'll probably uninstall it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Clark Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 Thanks for all your comments looks like we’ll be going for a full pedestal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 We put plastic pipes in the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Clark Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Temp said: We put plastic pipes in the wall. we’re working onto an already tiled surface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassanclan Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 It would look dodgy with pipes going in through the bottom of the semi pedestal. Roca do some open bottom semi pedestals 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Clark Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 Does a full pedestal support the weight of the sink? Just thinking that fixing to our stud wall could be simpler than a wall mounted sink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Robert Clark said: Does a full pedestal support the weight of the sink? Just thinking that fixing to our stud wall could be simpler than a wall mounted sink Full, to the floor, pedestal is a pita to clean around...apparently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 With hindsight I'd have gone for a half or no pedestal. ...and maybe paid a tiler! ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 49 minutes ago, Robert Clark said: Does a full pedestal support the weight of the sink? Just thinking that fixing to our stud wall could be simpler than a wall mounted sink They usually take some of the weight. And they will hide the pipes, which is what they were designed to do, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Robert Clark said: we’re working onto an already tiled surface Then deffo do not go for the semi-pedestal . IMO it'll look daft having pipes disappear into it after them being exposed below. I have cut a LOT of porcelain stuff in my time, to do things like this, but it's very unnerving and some stuff didn't live to tell the tale ? Edited July 7, 2020 by Nickfromwales 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Perhaps some sort of wash stand... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Clark Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 9 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: Then deffo do not go for the semi-pedestal . IMO it'll look daft having pipes disappear into it after them being exposed below. I have cut a LOT of porcelain stuff in my time, to do things like this, but it's very unnerving and some stuff didn't live to tell the tale ? How did you cut porcelain Nick ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Clark Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 For clarity If we were to use a semi pedestal there would only be a short length of pipe between the boxed in pipes below and the bottom of the pedestal Could make a narrow box from tiles ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 why not box and tile the whole thing then if it's just for appearance-? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Clark Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 Just now, dpmiller said: why not box and tile the whole thing then if it's just for appearance-? The semi pedestal would hide the trap and tap connection better I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Robert Clark said: How did you cut porcelain Nick ? With one hand on the angle grinder, ( fitted with a continuous rim diamond edge blade rated for porcelain ), and the other hand on your balls. Disclaimer : Holding balls is optional, but best to have both hands on the grinder. Slow and steady will do it, expect the porcelain not to like being cut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Robert Clark said: Could make a narrow box from tiles ? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I will say what @Nickfromwales is thinking, nope don’t do it it will look poo ??. How about a vanity unit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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