NotJustin Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Hi all, limited experience, sort of, but I'm restoring an old church in Scotland. This seems like a handy forum. Cheers, Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Hi and welcome An interesting project that could be anywhere from easy to challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I've always wanted to take on that kind of project. I'm sure it'll be daunting, but we're here to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJustin Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 This is the church: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 That looks tall enough for 2 storeys of accommodation. I can see why the cherry picker will be useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJustin Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 It's 26ft to the rafters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 12 hours ago, Justin Tuijl said: It's 26ft to the rafters. 3 storeys then? Or 2 with a mezanine upstairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Restoring or converting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 You must be the chap who’s first jump was off the top board... Welcome. Is it listed in some form? It looks weathered, but restoring render should be easier than restoring all the stonework to be pristine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpd Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Great project, what part of scotland are you in ? I’m in Argyll. Look forward to hearing about your plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJustin Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) Lochcarron. We're lightly converting to live in it. But mostly restoring. Guy before us tore a lot out without permission. It's grade 2 listed. could be 3 floors of we wanted. At the moment there is a gallery as a second floor. We have a website www.lochcarronchurch.com The first serious project, now we have water, loo and power, is the roof which has nail sickness. Hence a cherry picker. Edited June 6, 2020 by Justin Tuijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Out of interest, have you found any Masonic things anywhere? My local parish church had a garter placed on top of a roof beam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnb Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 This looks a fantastic project. I look forward to seeing it progress and would like to wish you the best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJustin Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 No masonic thkngs, I don't think this was the right religion for all that. Thanks for all the best of lucks, going to need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilly Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Wowsers. Puts mine in perspective ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJustin Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 It's beyond me why they built it so tall. It makes most rural Scottish churches look tiny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 So it's not going to be a house but a business venture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJustin Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 We were toying with business ideas but my wife became disabled, so it's all over as a business. It's just a home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Justin Tuijl said: We were toying with business ideas but my wife became disabled, so it's all over as a business. It's just a home. So your idea of crowd funding to repair the roof on the basis of community use might be the wrong approach now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJustin Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) Oh, it's all very convoluted. We have a community recycling point in the porch. But right now we're simply attempting to save the roof. Since lockdown we've been unable to get even a quote for the roof. Hence the cherry picker and starting to do it ourselves. As for the crowd funding, that was the option for a very rich and large family in the USA to help out, which they haven't. Like I say, we had many plans, we missed the funding applications due to lockdown and we're not sure if we'll be able to open the doors again. My wife is still hoping to have a gaelic language studio here. But at the moment, who knows quite what is happening. We do have commercial listed building insurance and public liability insurance. Just have to see what the future is like when and if Scotland comes out of lockdown. Number 1 is to stop the roof falling in, without the roof we have nothing, regardless of viruses, business and so forth. Things are nuts, we're having trouble even getting batteries for the cherry picker. It was hard enough getting delivery to the Highlands before, now with lockdown, impossible This building will be, and is, first and foremost, a home. Unfortunately the website is a bit of a mess due to us and the world, and the building all shifting around. Edited June 7, 2020 by Justin Tuijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 What are you doing about insulating the roof? I suspect there is none at the moment. If you want to preserve the original look from inside, then probably the best way is whole roof off on one go, external insulation making it a warm roof and re tile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieled Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Theres a guy about 400m up the road from me who's also restoring a big church. He's done the roof and walls and made the back bit habitable but it's a huge job. Friendly guy, church is between Cannich and Tomich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiver Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 It's a fair project that, but you're lucky to have that spot - I love Lochcarron and will be back up there as soon as Mrs Sturgeon allows. It's somewhere I'd very much like to live - hope the hotel survives the current crisis, I've had some wonderful mad nights in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJustin Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 Currently we are think not to add insulation. We had a corner of the roof fixed that cost 5k. The guy put tons of Kingspan up there, we found out later that a building like this is designed to breath and take in water to a certain extent. Kingspan is not a good product to use. Usually the listed building advice is to use sheeps wool, or like products. Anyway, wer'e thinking of having "pods" in the building that seperate it up. Then the main area doesn't really need insulation. We would do the whole roof in one go, but, not sure we'll manage it. The tourists are already in Lochcarron. Don't think lochdown is counting for much. I'm not sure what businesses around here are going to come out of it well. Certainly my webdesign business is pretty much ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I can promise you that the roof was not designed to take in water. If you add pir type insulation above the rafters and re-roof, the roof structure will stay warm and dry. I have seen sheep wool insulation destroyed by moths, even with boron treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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