ToughButterCup Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Normally I love whacking. Find it soothing. Occasionally a filling falls out , but what the heck. You end up with a nice smooooothe surface. Now when @Mr Punter writes this, (here) Quote The trench will need filling in any case and there is a mile of fall on the garden.... It can probably be backfilled with the as dug and compacted to the correct level without any great harm. Maybe use a trench compactor if there is a lot of material. I sit up and take notice. The word probably might be important innit? I've backfilled .... like this gone is the sheer cliff face, insted, theres this 40 degree 'slide' - had fun rolling the glacial till boulders downhill.... And of course @Mr Punter is right: it needs compaction. Now I never was Charles Atlas, or Geoff Capes - but Hell even those two would have found pulling or pushing a whacker up that slope a bit of a challenge. Do I have to hire a fiver tonner and thump that sloped bit of the trench hard with the bottom of the bucket? And once I have, how on earth do I get 100mm of gravel to sit nicely on the slope at 40 degrees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Rope and pulley to wind the wacker up and down the slope? DON'T use round gravel. It will roll like marbles. you need crushed irregular shaped gravel that will bind together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Do it in 1m sections so your not going up hill for long. Or If you push down on the handle so it's sort of wheeling up then it goes up hill a bit better. A trench rammer is a different kind of beast. Pull the cord and hold on till your finished our your arms are ready to vibrate of you. Make sure your phone isn't in your pocket if your swinging of one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 This is so easy hire a whacker from shop A, start at top and when you get to the bottom phone up and off hire it, when the bod turns up to collect it just point at the bottom of the hill and say there you go chummy. Repeat until all local hire shops have refused to serve you. Easy peasy. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassanclan Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 If you use the trench wacker suggested you can get up and down the hill no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 If you need any more boulders you can have this bugger, made the ol digger puff a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 From this hire website, for £70/week: https://www.hirestation.co.uk/tool-hire/Compaction/Trench-Rammer-Hire/050050/ Quote Excellent balance for easy control and high level compaction and is ideal for use on cohesive materials and gradients Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 On a serious note you can hire a reversible whacker vibrate one way then flick the switch and vibrate back the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miek Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 40 degrees is quite a slope! I dont think you can 'Whack' your way uphill at that gradient, that's hard enough just to walk up. Id go downhill with a rope on the wacker to slow it down and hold it from the top with your hands whilst letting it out. bring it back up with your digger. However since you have a digger just thump the trench with the bucket to compact it every 150mm of fill, use the rounded back of the bucket to get harder compaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 Alright you lot - how much trench ramming is just enough trench ramming , eh? Tell me that. How do you know when to stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miek Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 It's only a drainage trench in a garden so no need to go crazy over it, just basic compaction will do IMO.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, Miek said: It's only a drainage trench in a garden so no need to go crazy over it, just basic compaction will do IMO.. so this is a ditch to be filled with gravel as a sloping soak away or is there a pipe to go in it then back filled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 It's part of the foul drainage run .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 some of your boulders at bottom to act as a temporary dam while you fill up above them + compact it ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Do you need to put this pipe in now. How about compacting 200mm layer with your feet and then just leave it alone, I find I do lots of land remodelling around my place and leaving a few days for the weather to dry/ wet, settled the area naturally ready for me to then stamp it down again before adding another layer. Think about it, just back fill for an hour and go and get on with another chore and come back in the morning to do a little dance on it, do a bit every day for two weeks and it should firm up very well. No whacker needed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortarThePoint Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Hard work in a different way, but what about using a Tamper: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 @Russell griffiths, @scottishjohn, @MortarThePoint, thanks very much. I've had each of your ideas, but knowing that I know just enough to be a danger to local shipping , it's extra good to read your posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 19 hours ago, Russell griffiths said: If you need any more boulders you can have this bugger, made the ol digger puff a bit. That's not a stone, this is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 If we are comparing stones --I know i,m gonna win .LOL things that the 14ton digger can only roll about --just can,t lift them and some it can hardly even move . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 42 minutes ago, scottishjohn said: If we are comparing stones --I know i,m gonna win .LOL things that the 14ton digger can only roll about --just can,t lift them and some it can hardly even move . Would you post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 Blokes lining up to compare things.... ya couldn't have guessed could ya? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Russell griffiths said: Would you post it. should be down that road to morrow -will get a picture of my stones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 17:43, scottishjohn said: should be down that road to morrow -will get a picture of my stones wrong road today --maybe tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) still not on right road today --spent it all dumper driving moved about 300tons today -minimum but snapped a few of the moderate size ones on the road side thats my chainsaw helmet on them to give scale . your WEE diggers would not lift any of them Edited May 11, 2020 by scottishjohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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