Visti Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I'm still keen on the fermacel approach to drywalling, but can't for the life of me find contractors who've experience with it. I've reached out to fermacel UK with no response. I just don't have the time to DIY it myself (about 2-3 months work est, and I have 8 days holiday left!) Any recommendations from folks on the forum for anyone specific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I have used Fermacell in the past. It is a real pain to work with, expensive and your sparky will hate you when they try to cut out backboxes. I also found it seems no less prone to mould than plasterboard. I have used Knauff Soundshield Plus in the past. Good value, sound attenuation, tough etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visti Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 Thanks @Mr Punter, I've heard all the wonderful stories of just how hard it is to work with material, hence why I'm keen to contract it out! Hehe. It'll all be price based, so I'll be comparing it to some quotes For standard double board and soundboard for internal walls. This is a long shot, but determined to give it a fair shot before I make up my mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnaught Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Sorry I can't help with a specific contractor recommendation for you, @Visti. My impression was that any drywall contractor could do it but that they will inevitably grumble. I have heard of some bodge jobs so, like you, I'd be certainly be looking for someone who'd had some experience with it. Generally. I am interested in your decision, I am seriously considering Fermacell myself, because of the lack of the need for any plastering, but in my case I am tempted to try and DIY it as I have the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy C Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Have you considered Habito (british Gypsum) instead? As with Fermacel (and regular plasterboard) it can be taped and jointed and not skimmed, although most people prefer a skim finish. Try commercial dryliners as they will often work without skimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 You don’t need to plaster any of the plasterboard products @Dreadnaught if you don’t want to, my last house had no wet skim plaster and this one won’t either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1c Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I plan to use it via a dry lining company. They weren’t over keen on it (have used it in the past) due to the weight of the sheets but it was within a couple of hundred pounds, if I applied the FST, of a plasterboard and skim. That is without factoring in costs for noggins so probably equivalent or less - ask me in a few months if doing the FST myself was a good idea.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 On 04/11/2019 at 12:52, Dreadnaught said: Generally. I am interested in your decision, I am seriously considering Fermacell myself, because of the lack of the need for any plastering, but in my case I am tempted to try and DIY it as I have the time. its pretty easy to use but brutal on tools. Buy cheap ones and you’ll need the warranty a couple of times but will do it. If you’ve got timber studs then an air stapler with 40mm crown staples is much quicker and easier. FST is the weirdest stuff ever - only needs a squeegee to apply it ..! Looks like it’s not gone on but dry in minutes and perfectly flat. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnaught Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Russell griffiths said: You don’t need to plaster any of the plasterboard products @Dreadnaught if you don’t want to, my last house had no wet skim plaster and this one won’t either. Fascinating. Which boards are you using? Anything exotic like Habito or just plain old plasterboard? Really sorry @Visti, don't want to hijack your search for a contractor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 I haven’t decided on a board yet, but whatever it is will be taped and jointed and a fst applied look up level 5 finish on drywall, too many people over here think you need to skim to get a good finish, what utter rubbish do you think a $5 million house in the states has a poor finish because they don’t wet plaster. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnaught Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: look up level 5 finish on drywall Thanks Russell, looking it up now. Appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nethermoor Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 @Russell griffiths Interested in what you are saying with tape and jointing. When you say FST do you use the Fermacell stuff but just on normal plasterboard, or can you get similar stuff in another brand? Do you use this over the whole board or just the joints? Wondering whether this would overcome the issue with wallpapering - if you wallpaper straight onto a taped and jointed wall and then decide to change it in future you basically have to remove the plasterboard entirely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 All of the board manufacturers make their own surface finish, some you spray on, some you put on with a roller. Most are aimed at commercial builds, where they want a good finish without skimming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eandg Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: All of the board manufacturers make their own surface finish, some you spray on, some you put on with a roller. Most are aimed at commercial builds, where they want a good finish without skimming. Edit: found an answer (and can't see how to delete the post). Edited November 26, 2019 by eandg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, eandg said: I've done a wee bit of googling and can't find anything around FST or level 5 finishing (that doesn't refer to wet plaster). Interested in anything that's doable for a fairly competent DIYer though. Lots on YouTube if you look up the manufacturers pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eandg Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Russell griffiths said: Lots on YouTube if you look up the manufacturers pages. Thanks, will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlb40 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Do you have any hospitals being built near you? A lot use this now, so if you have one near you a word with the site manager might get you the details of companies they use. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) On 05/11/2019 at 11:44, Judy C said: Try commercial dryliners as they will often work without skimming. It always looks shite ove time - EG. you tell its was just joints done If you building an office block --OK but your house --skim it why do think "artec" became so popular with mass builders --cos it covered up skrim tape and fill jobs Edited December 28, 2019 by scottishjohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, scottishjohn said: It always looks shite ove time - EG. you tell its was just joints done From that I don’t think you’ve seen Fermacell installed. I’ve got a couple of jobs been done for over 10 years and only a couple of cracks where small panels were used to make up walls. The rest - including a 65 square metre sloped ceiling is still as good as when it was done. Fermacell joints are glued which makes a significant difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, PeterW said: From that I don’t think you’ve seen Fermacell installed. I’ve got a couple of jobs been done for over 10 years and only a couple of cracks where small panels were used to make up walls. The rest - including a 65 square metre sloped ceiling is still as good as when it was done. Fermacell joints are glued which makes a significant difference. Pretty sure he was talking about taped plasterboard rather than Fermacell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 As with everything it depends on your actual spec you want. i have seen some very poor skimming jobs and terrible boarding, yet have seen some fantastic tape and jointing. If you specify a top notch then taping and jointing will look and last equally to skimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, PeterW said: From that I don’t think you’ve seen Fermacell installed. I’ve got a couple of jobs been done for over 10 years and only a couple of cracks where small panels were used to make up walls. The rest - including a 65 square metre sloped ceiling is still as good as when it was done. Fermacell joints are glued which makes a significant difference. yes you are correct I have not seem fermacell done was the big job you mention TF or ICF or block work steel stud work? I suspect TF will suffer more due to shrinkage of frame 15 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: As with everything it depends on your actual spec you want. i have seen some very poor skimming jobs and terrible boarding, yet have seen some fantastic tape and jointing. If you specify a top notch then taping and jointing will look and last equally to skimming. as the americans say " I will take that under advisement" Edited December 28, 2019 by scottishjohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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