Norwich council houses entered for the Stirling prize

[joe90]

Just watched the news and the bit about a council housing estate in Norwich that has made it to the short list on the Stirling prize for architecture. Thick walls (insulated?) sun orientated, no letter boxes (MVHR and airtight?) and very child friendly and social. Let’s hope it is what it seems and others follow this example.     Discuss.......

[Declan52]

Also looked very nice as well . Flat roofs to let the sun still get into houses during the winter.

[Oz07]

any links?

[SteamyTea]

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/politics/norwich-goldsmith-street-scheme-favourite-to-win-riba-stirling-prize-1-6311239

 

Looks like where a school mate of mine lived in Basildon.

I think the term is fugly.

Edited October 8, 2019 by SteamyTea

[Ian]

Build cost was £1875/sq.m

[nod]

19 minutes ago, Ian said:

Build cost was £1875/sq.m

Wow 

not cheap

[ProDave]

Looks good. It should showcase the fact that mass market housing can be built well.

[SteamyTea]

Anyone know what sizes these places are. They look similar in size to my place, which is tiny.

[joe90]

I would be interested in their build method and insulation value etc etc.

 

[Cambs]

12 minutes ago, joe90 said:

I would be interested in their build method and insulation value etc etc.

 

 Hope this link works for you .... They're on Page 34

 

https://issuu.com/passivehouseplus/docs/ph__uk_issue_21_digital

Edited October 8, 2019 by Cambs

[joe90]

Makes good reading, really interested in the vertical “thatch” panels made off site with local straw that clad the building. Other similar sites in the pipeline. Way to go!

[joe90]

Just saw the news and these council houses won the Stirling prize for architecture.

[Temp]

Very interesting but which one is the affordable house they are selling at 80% of the market value :-)

[joe90]

5 minutes ago, Temp said:

Very interesting but which one is the affordable house they are selling at 80% of the market value ?

 

Is this the right to buy thing?. I don't see why that should happen (putting tin hat on,!!).

[Temp]

I'm just being sarcastic. Planners expect developers to sell a proportion of the houses on a new estate at less than 80% of the market value and require any buyer to do the same via a clause in the contract. Obviously these aren't for sale but how much would they loose if they were sold off? 

 

[SteamyTea]

15 hours ago, Ian said:

Build cost was £1875/sq.m

So if a house was 80m², that is £150000.

Probably pretty cheap for Norwich.

[eandg]

On 08/10/2019 at 16:02, nod said:

Wow 

not cheap

 

Relatively cheap for high quality design and build social housing in that neck of the woods given recent cost inflation. Some of the big English social landlords have paused their development programmes (for sale to cross-subsidise affordable) as the numbers just don't stack up.

 

On 09/10/2019 at 07:22, SteamyTea said:

So if a house was 80m², that is £150000.

Probably pretty cheap for Norwich.

Doesn't include land costs. But presumably yes. 

 

In general terms it does send out a very positive message about the social value of good design and the public sector should be leading the way in making better places, so glad to see it won albeit it's not quite to my tastes. Some very nice little sustainability features like the brise soleil canopies.