Pocster Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, joe90 said: I did learn to dry set up basins etc to work out exactly where all pipes should be . Yeah but that’s almost impossible. To line up a outlet pipe with a unit with a trap all mm inline . (expletive deleted) that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 31 minutes ago, pocster said: Yeah but that’s almost impossible. almost, but not. I only learnt because I made the same mistake as you originally. Dry set up the basin, stand etc, pencil mark on the wall where the pipes should go (perhaps a mm lower to give a fall on the waste pipe. But as you say difficult to get mm perfect. Different traps are different dimensions also?. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, joe90 said: almost, but not. I only learnt because I made the same mistake as you originally. Dry set up the basin, stand etc, pencil mark on the wall where the pipes should go (perhaps a mm lower to give a fall on the waste pipe. But as you say difficult to get mm perfect. Different traps are different dimensions also?. Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I cocked up height wise. It was near enough dead in line though. Had an anti siphon trap: Whoops! So I got one of these: Took the telescopic section and added to the anti siphon bit of the first trap. (Both traps McAlpine): Some foil tape to finish off on the black plastic pipe! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 Fighting wc . It’s on dry ( no silicone ) If I grab the front though it ‘moves’ up a fraction . The only wall fixings are those 2 high bolts so nothing to stop the bottom lifting - this correct ? Going to tip water down the pan as test 1 Then flush it for test 2 In theory ( as I’m less than confident ) I should be able to sit on this now ? Take my feet off the floor and it takes my weight ?? ( the ultimate test !! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Brave boy! I don’t like the idea of wall hung (in theory), regarding “lift up” I guess ct1 as a gasket on the back before it’s bolted to the wall would take up any slack? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 Both tests successful! zero leaks . I stuck a bit of tissue in it . Set my camera to video hanging over the edge of the manhole . Flushed it . How sad eh ? . Where else would the (expletive deleted)ing water go ? All good ! . Would like to weight test it for my peace of mind but will wait until other ‘wall hangers’ say it’s ok .... too scared !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 @Onoff or any ‘ wall hangers ‘ this safe to weight test in this state ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 Too slow everyone ! I sat on it and lifted my feet off the floor . It does ‘move’ a bit is this normal ?? . I might be able to get tighter to the wall ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Nope, shouldn’t move, get a pair of grips on the end of the Allan key, and give it a turn! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) I didn't sit on mine until the CT1 had gone off. I used it as both packer & gasket as my pan sat across 2 tiles that weren't dead flush. Didn't over tighten for fear of cracking the pan but it certainly didn't wobble. Edited January 21, 2021 by Onoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 It will move as it is pivoting on the wall at the bottom of the pan. Take it all off and bed on either the Geberit gasket if it was supplied with one or a good bead of sealant and then do it up and leave it. This also stops any point loads from the pan and cracking any tiles. Don’t do it up any tighter than hand tight or you will crack the porcelain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, pocster said: Too slow Bet you don't hear that very often? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, PeterW said: It will move as it is pivoting on the wall at the bottom of the pan. Take it all off and bed on either the Geberit gasket if it was supplied with one or a good bead of sealant and then do it up and leave it. This also stops any point loads from the pan and cracking any tiles. Don’t do it up any tighter than hand tight or you will crack the porcelain. Yeah no geberit pan to wall gasket supplied . I saw that in a video and asked geberit . They said only really needed for pan against glass tiles not ceramic . Will take off the wall ct1 the back then reset . Clean up , then leave until Monday 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just before you do ... Insert a 2mm packer under the bottom edge of the pan - wrap it in cling film if possible and CT1 all round. Then pull the packer out when it’s all dry on Monday. This means you don’t squash all the CT1 out and also means if the pan connectors do leak you will get a tell tale line down the wall rather than it disappearing behind tiles etc. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, PeterW said: Just before you do ... Insert a 2mm packer under the bottom edge of the pan - wrap it in cling film if possible and CT1 all round. Then pull the packer out when it’s all dry on Monday. This means you don’t squash all the CT1 out and also means if the pan connectors do leak you will get a tell tale line down the wall rather than it disappearing behind tiles etc. Now that’s a good plan ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I've got an open bottom. (So no need for a 2mm pack here with the Bernstein pan). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 Before I commit Are the bolts meant to wobble ??? IMG_2980.MOV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, pocster said: Before I commit Are the bolts meant to wobble ??? IMG_2980.MOV With the plastic sleeve they don’t . But instructions suggest you don’t need that . I thought the sleeve was just to protect bolt thread getting stuff on them . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 They should not wobble! How have you fixed them in the framework? Here is the playlist for the Aqua Clean range (guessing you might be using that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, ToughButterCup said: They should not wobble! How have you fixed them in the framework? Here is the playlist for the Aqua Clean range (guessing you might be using that) Sure they just screw in . On my other geberit frame they wobble also .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Any bolt into a threaded hole will wobble due to thread clearance.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, markc said: Any bolt into a threaded hole will wobble due to thread clearance.. I’ll call geberit and double check !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 As my pan was non Geberit I had to go off piste with the fixing detail. I was paranoid about the pan material sitting on the metal bolt threads. I used the clear sleeves and a length of plastic conduit: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Pretty sure my (M12?) bolts had a bit of wobble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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