Pocster Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Onoff said: I Sikaflex'd 9mm ply onto my frame. I had to add a 9mm layer to ensure the subsequent Aqua Panels cleared the soil pipe at the base of the wall. Pretty sure that adds to keeping the frame in place. I used self drill screws through the ply into the Geberit frame. I was really careful to draw the frame on the ply so I didn't drill into any pipe or God forbid the cistern! Aqua Panel again Sikaflex'd to the ply: Again I marked a red zone where I daren't have drilled! The self drill screws were no good for screwing the Aqua panel through the ply and into the metal frame. I just used the proper Knauf screws where there was timber behind. Sikaflex not ct1 ? Does it matter ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, pocster said: Sikaflex not ct1 ? Does it matter ?? Dunno...I will say that Sikaflex I think skins up quicker than CT1... Sikaflex I think goes off more solid that CT1 though it still has a resilience about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Onoff said: Dunno...I will say that Sikaflex I think skins up quicker than CT1... Sikaflex I think goes off more solid that CT1 though it still has a resilience about it. I’ve got loads of ct1 to use up ! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, pocster said: I’ve got loads of ct1 to use up ! ? Use it I reckon. I used it to stick tiles to mrpb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 Warning warning ! Reaching point of commitment !! Water Hep2o inlet attached - waste in . Just got to sort Hep2o pipe to inlet . Looks like underneath I have no choice but a 90 degree tee . This is it for fitting the cistern I assume .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, pocster said: choice but a 90 degree tee . This is it for fitting the cistern I assume .... Whassa 90 degree tee, an elbow? Yep, if it's all in firm your there.....unless you go ott and stuff the cavity with sound deadening stuff.....like one bloke on here did..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Onoff said: Whassa 90 degree tee, an elbow? Yep, if it's all in firm your there.....unless you go ott and stuff the cavity with sound deadening stuff.....like one bloke on here did..... Yeah elbow . I was talking all professional ? TBH I stood here thinking - I should fill the cavity behind with sound insulation stuff - like a true pro !!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 Houston ! Check manifold of manifolds open Check inlet valve is dry Check bowl in place We are clear to flush - that’s clear to flush Houston ! Ah ! Bigger bowl required Houston ! Mission deemed successful ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) Stick the temporary faceplate over the flush mechanism and the two yellow bungs in the flush and poo pipe holes asap to prevent debris getting in. Do not cut your poo and flush pipes until the tiling is done. Edited March 16, 2020 by Onoff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 When and ONLY when your tiling is done! Push the flush pipe into the wall and make a mark level with the tiles: Put the flush pipe into the pan connector then into the pan with a bit of silicone spray: Mark flush with the back of the pan: The measurement between the two marks is how much you cut off the flush pipe, about 85mm in my case: Cut it off the non ribbed end and emery off the hairy bits: Ditto the poo pipe. I found a plastic bag used like this helped when swapping between the poo pipe and yellow bung as I was into a "live" drain. The yellow bung sat in a bucket of Dettol: Marking the poo pipe level with the back of the pan: Ott to cut the poo pipe down once I knew how much to trim off: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Geberit MIs give you all the measurements to fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, PeterW said: Geberit MIs give you all the measurements to fit Depends on how thick your tiles, wall panel and adhesive are. The MIs just give a range it'll cope with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 When you tile this, it is not essential to cut around everything as accurately as @Onoff as the WC pan will cover all the holes easily. You could just do one big cutout. If, however, you leave a gap at the top of the flush pipe the pan will not cover it and you will cry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, Mr Punter said: When you tile this, it is not essential to cut around everything as accurately as @Onoff as the WC pan will cover all the holes easily. You could just do one big cutout. If, however, you leave a gap at the top of the flush pipe the pan will not cover it and you will cry. Animal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 What kind of push plate are you using? We got fancy ones that sit flush with tiles and after tiling two rooms realised that there was a chrome backplate that we didn't have that went behind the tiles. Managed to source and fit for the untiled rooms but had to swap for the clip over version - still look good but could have done without the stress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Bitpipe said: What kind of push plate are you using? We got fancy ones that sit flush with tiles and after tiling two rooms realised that there was a chrome backplate that we didn't have that went behind the tiles. Managed to source and fit for the untiled rooms but had to swap for the clip over version - still look good but could have done without the stress! Ah ! Before purchase of cistern the style of push plate was ‘ unknown ‘ - so currently not bought any . That will be another decision for another day !! ? Edited March 16, 2020 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, pocster said: That will be another decision for another day !! ...but in the spirit of Bathroom Top Trumps probably this: https://www.ukbathrooms.com/products/geberit-sigma-80-touchless-dual-flush-plate-12cm-up320-.html ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 49 minutes ago, Onoff said: ...but in the spirit of Bathroom Top Trumps probably this: https://www.ukbathrooms.com/products/geberit-sigma-80-touchless-dual-flush-plate-12cm-up320-.html ? I'll order 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, pocster said: I'll order 2! Who's got the most expensive wc is it? It's not a pi$$ing contest! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 Glued bathroom sink waste together . Loosely clipped it to timber so I have some play ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 Hey @Onoff What am I doing wrong here ? Managed to get 1 bolt in but the rest are basically inaccessible - does the actual cistern come out or something ? . Don’t see how I can get a bolt from the outside in and hold the nut ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 Hey @Onoff What am I doing wrong here ? Managed to get 1 bolt in but the rest are basically inaccessible - does the actual cistern come out or something ? . Don’t see how I can get a bolt from the outside in and hold the nut ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, pocster said: Hey @Onoff What am I doing wrong here ? Managed to get 1 bolt in but the rest are basically inaccessible - does the actual cistern come out or something ? . Don’t see how I can get a bolt from the outside in and hold the nut ... From memory you can unclip the cistern. And I used a socket to hold the "nut" or in my case the head of a coach screw. Edited March 17, 2020 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Onoff said: From memory you can unclip the cistern. And I used a socket to hold the "nut" or in my case the head of a coach screw. Call to geberit - told me not to remove the cistern . Their advice drill a pilot hole into the steel then use a wood screw ! Not happy with that . Think I need long self tapping screws - can then drill through timber from the outside - then use screw that bites the steel properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, pocster said: Call to geberit - told me not to remove the cistern . Their advice drill a pilot hole into the steel then use a wood screw ! Not happy with that . Think I need long self tapping screws - can then drill through timber from the outside - then use screw that bites the steel properly. No need to remove! Just unclip and GENTLY push it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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