ToughButterCup

No @Happy Valley, but I am going to submit a second application, and then appeal the (almost inevitable) refusal. If nothing else, it'll make good material to post of BH.

Submitted July 2021, paid May 2022.

You need an answer from a competent professional with experience of having done the same kind of thing. Find an SE with experience of adding another floor to a house..... Has yours got that sort of experience? I ask because not all SEs have the same experience - and I've suffered from one who over-specified because he didn't understand the product we were talking about. He just went by 'the book'

Welcome. Competence. What you are asking for is basic, normal practice for a competent kitchen installer. Unless your system has some particular quirk.... The only question I'd be asking is - Can you show me examples of your previous work : not just verbal recommendations, actual examples of the tradespersons work.

BC has nothing at all to do with the quantity or quality of the discharge. They focus on the pipework, gradient and physical layout. Commonly, they don't even inspect that beyond glance or - recently- a photograph.

Oh, I wish you'd told us that earlier. Who is they? Why should you take responsibility? To what extent are agencies involved and what have they said? In terms of BC sign off, once thats done, its done. What's the issue with the sign off?

The General Binding Rules (GBR) are , it seems to me , more honoured in the breech than the observance. Because they don't care. Its the same locally (NW England) - they can argue they don't police the discharge, thats the EA's responsibility. All Building Control care about is the quality of the pipework to the system. They don't even care if the digester or septic tank leaks. (Because it's got f'all to do with them). Forget the BC sign off. It's done, it's history. and You have an evidence base: in short, you have a (possibly) non-compliant foul drainage system, and you know where it discharges. And that discharge cannot be inspected by you without permission I suspect? But the discharge isn't on your land. Correct? My advice based on bitter, smelly experience is Document the system Tell your neighbour (formally if necessary) that the system is non-compliant under the GBR. Then, EITHER Tell the EA about your non compliance OR Keep schtumm. If you tell the EA, all they will do is offer advice . They are highly unlikely to do anything about it at all If you don't, since the discharge is not on your land : happy days Then Wait for something to go wrong with the drainage system. If I were you and you are still unable to get your message across to your neighbour, I'd think hard about not paying for your share of the costs of cleaning out the tank. Doing that tends to focus minds a bit - but even that hasn't (in our case) made any difference whatsoever. The one key factor in this is that we are dealing with soft and smelly stuff. And people tend to ignore it. If (and its a massive - if - ) it comes to a tangle with the EA, then thats what your neighbour will say, and there, I suspect, the matter will end. Forget the BCO sign off. Wait for a foul drain problem. In all likelihood, nowt will happen. Please don't regard my response as dismissive: I think you are understandably over-worried. If the filtered foul liquor disappears, nobody takes much notice these days, despite regulatory statements to the contrary.

here's a reasonably reliable source of data for the year 2019 -2020. I've had a quick look and there is some surprising data .... (eg) only 77% of pension credit uptake... those who need it most, I suspect.

This is perhaps a bit too generalised for you but, its a start. Its the term '....official politics... ' that confuses a bit.

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Yep, down to the foundations ....🤪 If you need to ask the question, the answer is almost always ....yes....

Welcome. You appear to me to be asking BH members collectively to suck their teeth and say... "Welllllllll, it could be, but I'm not sure ..... on the one hand this, .... on the other that...... (But that won't stop us offering opinions 😉) So, get a proper survey done, and reduce the offer by the cost of the survey (and the repair) plus +100% if there is a problem. We just can't tell on the basis of a few photographs. Ian

Quick thought, @Robert Clark, would you mind telling us roughly what you did pay, please? I ask because loads of folks would like the answer to your question. Just a thought. Ian

First of all, welcome. I don't know the answer to your question, and neither does anyone else on BuildHub. We can make an educated guess on the basis of evidence. The fact that something has been allowed within a few meters of your house is merely an indication, not a precedent. Can I suggest you do a bit of detective work: look at similar local projects and then research their planning application history. The exercise will be very informative indeed. Then ,when you have done that come back to us and tell us what you have found. Why such a direct (if not harsh) response from me? We got PP, and the property 25 meters from us didn't. The subsequent Appeal failed too. Spend a good few hours researching recent similar projects in your area.... Should be fun! Good luck Ian

@jack : too kind, too diplomatic. In my case, an HMRC official write us a letter asking why we had submitted our application late. He (it was one of those) asked that question despite the guidance on the form stating that the form must be submitted 3 months after the date of the communication telling you (us) that our property had been added to the Register. That's not the date on which the property was added to the list - its the date of the letter telling us it had been added to the list. There was a five month gap between the two dates. (December to April the following year) That error on the part of the official caused a 6 month delay. How do I know that? I was asked to re-apply - so I submitted the same documentation again. 4 Months later I was told that the application had been validated (not decided, validated) A couple of months later we were paid. 6 months delay over all. And all because an HMRC official couldn't read and follow the guidance on the HMRC application form Change variable for stupid and I'd agree with you Jack.

To me, nothing . Because I know a farmer who wants some. And the farmer would bring his own digger ... as @Russell griffiths says above: the devil is in the detail. Educated guess Work: half a day £250 or one day if access is an issue. Digger: day £300 Haulage : £300 ~ £1000 + VAT if thats an issue.

Set @Onoff loose: release the dogs of the bathroom remodel (war?) Clive: wake up! You're needed

No to the first, and yes to the second question. Internal layout is Not a Material Consideration to a planning application.

Firstly welcome! You are understandably concerned. There's nowt like a Planning Application to flush out what people really think - as opposed to what they say to your face. You are in very good company here. At a guess I'd say many of us have had the same issue to deal with. Objections to Planning Apps are nothing new to us or indeed to planners. The vast majority of objections are made on what's called in planning terms 'Non-Material' grounds: they are not relevant to the application. You and I would call the grounds: Nonsense . I have looked at the objections offered; Re: 1 - I think that the Planners can write a condition require the garage to return to its original use when it's no longer required. But I'm not certain. Re 2: make sure the view from the windows is obscured in some way Re 3: non-material consideration (irrelevant) Re 4: non-material consideration ----- " ----- There may be other considerations which are material but we have missed them ...... I'd say your concerns in relation to the objections as stated , while understandable, are unfounded. To lighten the mood a bit, have a read of this ...... yes I was livid at the time I wrote it. The post contains links which should be helpful. On balance, I'd file the objection to your application (referred to in your post) in the waste bin. Ian

If you have to ask the question, then the answer is yes: change address. There are organisations that will do that for you for - in terms of the sums of money spent on a build - peanuts.

Here's authoritative data collated recently the data is available here in full https://www.gov.uk/guidance/appeals-average-timescales-for-arranging-inquiries-and-hearings Downloaded May 2022 Has your application been validated yet?

Dave, I think you are trying too hard. The job's getting them to take the fault seriously..... We had a similar issue - several vans and several blokes later; deadlock. Cue some fairly straight talking - followed by another van and another - new - OR guy. Twenty minutes later he'd found the problem , half a day later all sorted. The 'fault' ? The signal by-passed our house, went half a mile down the road and came back to us - often as not scrambled.

Structural engineer ... we're interested amateurs, well most of us. We decided on the same brief for our architect, and ended up raising the roof of our garden room to be the same level as the rest of the house. Which made the structure easier to build. The Garden Room has turned into what Kevin WhatsHisFace calls a Breeze Corridor. Yes, I milk it more than a bit.

Ahhh, at last, a balanced and thoughtful approach to a subject that - here - is usually an arid slanging match. Thank you.

Now he tells me: two years too late. Typical.