ToughButterCup

Four storeys? And here's me whingeing like a big handmaiden ! Mine's 2 and a bit. I have built an internal scaffold : part KwikStage, part trestles and KwikStage scaffold boards. Time for some pics (a la @Onoff), I think. Steep learning curves, I luv 'em.

Thanks everyone. I really appreciate the responses. I have yet to underboard the joists of the vaulted area with 80mm of insulation, and then put the PB (the subject of this thread) on top of (underneath) that. Debbie points out that if I plan it well enough, maybe I can arrange it such that the smaller pieces of PB go into the apex of the roof. It's not that big ... about 10 square meters. ' You aren't the roughy-toughy you once were, dear ' she said hi-tailing it out the door to work this morning. Revenge will be served, cold, sometime later this week.

@lizzie , are you North or South of the NEC?

I was born the day after the coronation..... my parents carried me round on a sheet of plasterboard, Im told. ?

You sayin' I'm old and feeble then, eh? ?

Oh..... looks like I need to give this some more thought then dunnit?

OK, @lizzie , @Hecateh , @newhome , @Pete and a few others yer just going to say MTFU. Now that you've got that off your chests, I need to tell you that I have a vaulted ceiling to do : top is 4m off the deck, bottom about 2m. I don't mind heights - I respect them, and it's nowhere near as bad as some of the tricks I've pulled before now. But lifting boards into place when already on an internal scaffolder tower? I was wondering what you thought of one of these? Worth it?

She was a nightmare student, a real cauchemar..... Think the recent series called Cheat on 'telly.

A (few) small block of wood, propped between a vertical and the house, such that if the scaffold moves away from the house then it will drop. Very simple, very 'dirty' - but at least it makes me think about movement every time I see the telltale: that's it's principal value, I think. Otherwise, I'd just walk past it and not give the issue even a passing thought. Caused a few heart-stops when I saw the telltale on the ground - until I realised the wind had blown it down. A quick measure of the gap between the vertical and the house was (is) exactly the same.

Where to start? Easy. Somewhere - doesn't matter where. Then think about it's dependencies. That always - without fail - leads to the fundamentals. The things you cannot avoid. Then, head-down-arse-up-go.

You must be really hacked off. In that phase of our build, I got quite adept at re-scheduling and re-planning stuff. Delay can be turned into a positive thing ... takes effort, but it can be done.

When I do go up there, I do indeed fit a kickboard and netting. There are also four strongpoints to which I fit a fall arresting lanyard and I wear a full safety harness. (Unless I'm up there for a couple of minutes) The structure is properly braced (one bay in three) and is fixed to the house in four places. The next planned work is early summer. So, until then, to reduce windage, I took the netting and kickboards down. Having said all that, let's hope I remember my weekly checks eh? But when nothing is happening on it, and the movement tell-tales (a technique shown to me by my dad, an Ex-Royal Engineer WO2) are still in place, I tend to switch off a bit. Thanks for the nudge.

Welcome! Get to know us eh? Well, I drink Lancaster Bomber and Wainwright's beer, and the odd glass of single malt. I think I need to introduce you to SWMBO because I tending to ignore normal maintenance . She drinks anything dry and white. Stop off at J33 on the M6 next time you pass. ? Ian

North West Lancashire attitude to planning permission, described in 3 words. I just have.

Over-focus, perhaps? But most of all, just trying to get it right.

Oh, it's oooooozin' baby, Its ooozin' OK. All over my trousers ; I've knelt in it sat in it, walked in it got it all over my hands got it on one elbow but not the other got it in my hair one lens of my glasses is coated in it

And what if you put a shed on wheels? The Conditions don't cover that..... and so popping a shed on some form of wheels is a common way round that regulation. Tucked out of direct sight, and incapable of being hitched instantly to a thief's tow truck..... Just sayin' .....

Pheeeew. OK lads, ta! I'm on it. ?

Welcome. You haven't read the forum then? Its ram packed with what you want.

It was all going well: too well - the laying chipboard flooring that is..... But some time or other I had to solve the problem of what happens when the joists change direction. Half the joists run north south, half east west. And they meet at the top of the stairs. That was the place where two cut edges have to sit side by side : and I tackled that little joker yesterday - Oh dear: North South joist on the RHS, East West joists LHS. They meet under the left-hand gap. Its the gap covered by the rule that I'm concerned about. The joint sits squarely across a wide joist. Both bits of floorboard can be adequately stuck down and screwed into place firmly. Debbie wants it to be covered with bamboo. The gap will not be seen. But I know the friggin' thing is there.... GGGGrrrrrr. I've worked really hard to get it all mm perfect. IGNORE : REPAIR : REPLACE? Knock down and start again? (Nein Danke)

Ne! - fuer also.....

My concern is to keep the thread (in truth, all threads ) balanced and factual. And in that respect, expert opinion is highly valued. But danger exists - especially on line - where there is little or no challenge to perceived technical expertise. Currently, we only have direct evidence of one problem install and, as written, second hand reports of others: hearsay. And we have direct reports of many problem free installs. We have to be seen to be objective, fair, and balanced in our treatment of what for many members (and non members) could be an expensive purchase decision.

In fairness, and in pursuit of a balanced discussion, I would like to point out that Jeremy's opinion is not the only one.

If you are wondering whether something is a trip hazard : it is. Design it out.

@lizzie, you're just like everyone else. You have to start somewhere. You'll use them, and often they'll be fine, and sometimes you'll whisper sweet nothings under your breath because [.... fill in the reason here ....] and when you're next in a shed or Halfords or somewhere like that and you see an offer, you'll buy them - because ' I just need them, and they were on offer anyway ' ? Just like wimmin need an apple corer (when hands and knife will do) or a potato flagellator (when a fork will do) ......