scottishjohn

it makes you wonder if everyone did it as they are supposed to and were checked by BC on it if we would have so many TF homes my guess the cost difference between them and ICF or block+hard plaster would dissappear very quickly . does any one really believe that every penetration of the plasterboard eg sockets has a fire stop behind it thats means then your fire stops should be behind the service void and that layer is also fire resistant --. Icf and hard plaster with electrics buried in the foam under the hard plaster sound a better solution fire starts as an electrical one at socket --then set light to the PIR foam insulation-- and the air tightness barrier Am I missing something ??

that was my point -fire is put out in room it starts in and limits spread

where would you fit them ? 2 or 3 horizontal rows all round the cavities at different heights? if at bottom on wall -maybe not get hot enough quick enough to work and stop air flow if fire was upstairs? seems a very knotty problem to solve simply ,especially if TF with cladding . maybe TF should be sheathed outside in MGO board ,which is fire resistant? a plus of an ICF build maybe ? and if getting that praniod -the pvc windows will melt out like at grenfell --which caused it to jump and gave it more oxygen the right answer has to be sprinklers if you that worried

How long is a piece of string? what type of blocks/bricks ? what size windows +doors +what quality? same goes for roof what type what span what type of exterior roof cladding tiles ,corrugated tin ,standing seam steel or zinc - who is doing it you or builders? how much you going to spend to get out of the ground + services should be your first thought this is why people use an average cost per sqm floor area as a starting point and it all starts with your plan so you can cost it alot more people qualified to give a batter answer than me but just think you can spend 4k on a kitchen or 50k so plan first -and stick to it changing your mind later will cost you a lot of money

when you said chugging down the lake I was envisaging windermere or lake victoria .LOL

the sensor at bottom of picture should have insulation round it so it gets correct temp transferred from pipe also if possible ALL those pipes should be lagged to stop heat loss ,which wil lower the effiency of your system

maybe by the time you have given it its first preservative coat that may colour the grey passivated ones to your wood colour? worth a wee test before hand

yes ,will be checking before anything is done -- not sure it would class as a change of use for the lake ?

I,m guessing that was not in UK --not many lakes that big

Ok ,here the scenario you own a lake and you can't get PP to build next to it so you have a house boat ? as far as i know you don,t need PP for that ? I know someone who bought a harbour ,but no PP for building a house on it .so it was suggested he moor a boat there instead? the architect thought it would be hard to stop ,but them an said his wife wouldn,t go for it any idea if this "floats "

I would prefer hydrogen cell fuelling an IC engine to make electric -- but bottom line, too expensive at this time to make hydrogen I think they oil companies held its development back long enough to kill it in reality ,so they must be buying all the lithium deposits on the quiet -. once we get orbital manufacturing and endless free very strong solar --things might change for battery tech,PV panel production and hydrogen lots of things are easier to make in a vacum and zero gravity with endless free power. by that time you,ll be able to go sub-orbital to Australia in 4 hrs? but ,ll be dead by then

yes there is a type of fire stop putty that expands when heated to do that job and block off voids

I think you are correct but that don,t take into account of the "bean counters" cos they will get away with most of it .and they do - so unless there is a REAL severe penalty if they are caught ,then they ain,t going to change are they ,just waffle away like politicians . now if they fined them double the cost of putting things right when they were found out and ALL houses had air test before plasterboard --then you might start to get somewhere

the present inspection system is like allowing any garage /mechanic do an mot .

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mains supplied system is fine for normal 2-3 storey house-no tank needed-if you worried fit a booster pump tower block --different yes

sort of --yes I split my garage into 3 units and one of them had an upstairs office so to get get round the protected exit issue i cleared it with BC to fit sprinklers no problem was the answer --but you need an approved fire engineer drawing for us to pass it no problem was the answer from a fire engineer , your design is spot on, until he told me he wanted 5k to rubber stamp the design I sent him Its just a bit of plumbing thats all --so easy to do .. there would soon be local fire engineers if it became mandatory +price would drop dramtically

yes they should be built =inspected better - but is this not the time to make sprinkler systems mandatory in ALL buildings -- not expensive to fit at build stage you don't just have air bags in a car ,but seat belts as well-same would be sensible for housing belt +braces approach

yes nostalgia isn,t what it used to be. LOL get those cross ply tyres howling >LOL remember the lotus twin cam escort or cortina-- that was car you dreamed of It had a 120bhp !! same as a saxo vts 1.6 or a ford eco 1000cc focus or a citreon c3 hdi 1.6 diesel --no things have moved on a long way with electronics +fuel injection since those days its so silly you buy a bmw m3 --400bhp --but the ecu only ever allows it to make full bhp once you are in top gear and over 120mph why cos the "boy racers "would destroy the gearbox /clutch if they allowed it to give full bhp from a standstill you have 10 launch control uses --after that warranty is gone on transmission same reason as all these super cars are flappy paddle /auto boxs +4wd--"footballer" would destroy it or kill himself first day and killing your customers is not good for biz. 4wd is a boys car anyway 300bhp through 2 wheels is enough to keep any driver scared if used in anger with no electronic interference./traction control and all the other spoilers on a twisty road ,thats a MANS car what was that famous roger clark quote "sideways to victory --backwards to oblivion "

always suprised me how much tyre pressures went up on the race car if one side was in the sun and other side in shade when sat in the pits--could be 2psi rise on one side and 1psi drop on other that was what made us get a nitrogen system for the garage basically an osmosis set -up --compressed air in --and filtered out all oxygen + water vapour from it give near pure nitrogen tyre pressures stayed constant after that ,also noticed on customers cars how pressure drop between services was virtually nil ,unless rim leaked on older cars -tyres lasted longer as well ,or so customers reported-,maybe just because they were always at correct pressure .

hydrogen is the way we should have been going for a long time --at least that can be refuelled in a few minutes and at a normal petrol station ,

I am yet to be convinced that self charging hybrids are any better than small capacity turbo charged 3 cylinder sub 1000cc engines they can get similar fuel economies if driven correctly .but with 120bhp people don,t . we all know the claims fro hybrids are not attainable in the real world by real people ,except for granny going to the church on a sunday your small hybrids are not exactly sporty and if same limitation --eg auto were put on the petrol turbo eco engines then i am pretty sure they would do better .t If you really want to stop pollution --then make less BHP the older ones of you will remember the average big family car of the 60,s had 60 -80 bhp or if you were vauxhall ,you cheated and bhp tested engine with no ancillaries like water pump ,flywheel dynamo ,gearbox --pure test bed bhp for bare engine --which how you got the vauxhall victor vx4/90 a toyota aygo 998cc gives 68bhp and are about as heavy as an old morris oxford due to crash regs and will do more than twice as many mpg ,no matter how you drive it the fire breathing car of its day, mini cooper S 1275c -was same bhp as the toyota ,but was nowhere close to same economy and about half the wieght of it. the point I,m making is that if you really want to cut down pollution --limit bhp of all cars --no need for 200,300, or 600bhp as in some cars even for towing I can never see a real need for more than 100 modern bhp --speed limit is 70mph. my dads old Riley 4/72 would do about 105 mph -but even driving sensible it never did more than about 34 mpg. same goes for all these 600-700bhp modern trucks --no need for it and they do about 8mpg. will it happen --never --unless you tax cars on bhp --back to the first type of car taxation do I like fast cars --yes of course i do --but maybe we should be ready to pay for the pollution they make--if you profess to be a "tree hugger"

i have read and agreed with a lot of this to me the bottom line is people will only change their ways if it is in their OWN financial interest to do so ,what ever they may say or pontificate about. diesel is the perfect example --people changed because it was cheaper not because governments wanted them to go that way. the same will happen when electric cars for the masses are cheap enough until then there will be no big change --so its simple raising taxes on fuel is the only way to make it happen ,same as making mains electric more expensive so they will use less of it and think about micro generation seriously how you use the extra taxation is another thing!! --just like "road tax" was never used just for improving roads --its goes in the treasury pot and ministers decide where to spend it. tree huggers somehow think that perfect public transport should happen now --well it has to be paid for So where is the money coming from ? and it would never work in the countryside

you have mains gas --plenty of pretty looking gas fires that look like wood burners ,but with no cleaning out and having to store logs to dry out etc ,etc ? I gone half way with an belling optimyst stove --no other flame effect can compare cos its water vapour you are illuminating + it has a 2kw elec fan heater as well If its effect your looking for go see one in the flesh -video is good --even better when you see it just a suggestion for you

don,t mention it or distinctly do not recommend. and yes you would still need bracing for vertical ,but if partially glued would stop them moving about and making gaps different