newhome Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 What’s the difference (in purpose) between the one on the left (adjustable wrench) and the one on the right (waterpump pliers)? I need something I can grab something with to turn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 The wrench will only work on a hex nut of bolt. The pliers will grip most things. What do you need to grip? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 28 minutes ago, Mr Punter said: The wrench will only work on a hex nut of bolt. The pliers will grip most things. What do you need to grip? Thanks! There’s a knob that turns in a wall hung cistern to turn the water off and I can’t grab it enough to turn it off with my fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Water pump pliers then ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Sleepy-eyed, I read Wench vs piles Wench every time...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 So why are they called waterpump pliers ... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, newhome said: So why are they called waterpump pliers ... ? They are designed around the slip joint which means they can grip a number of different size nuts with the same handle spacing and this is needed when removing the nuts on circulation pumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, newhome said: So why are they called waterpump pliers ... ? They are not. To an Electrician, they are Gland Pliers. (to tighten cable glands) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I have one of each and use which ever one my hand lands on first for any given job 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Colloquially known as "5 holes" due to the 5 adjustment positions. Try and drop the h to sound like you know what you're talking about. For example: "Whacked a bit of tape round it & managed to get a couple o' turns with the 5 'oles and that sorted it!" Builders crack showing is optional. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 13 hours ago, newhome said: What’s the difference (in purpose) between the one on the left (adjustable wrench) and the one on the right (waterpump pliers)? I need something I can grab something with to turn it. From the left: "Adjustable" "Pliers: "Long nose" "Moles" (Mole grips being a particular brand of locking pliers like hoover means vacuum cleaner). "5 'oles" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 missing the (now rare) very useful Footprints. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Bitpipe said: I have one of each and use which ever one my hand lands on first for any given job A man after my own heart! I generally try to use the multi talented screwdriver for many jobs where a flat one doubles up as a scraper, a chisel, a paint lid remover, weed digger upper et al, and the pointy ones do hole punching amongst other things! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Just now, newhome said: A man after my own heart! I generally try to use the multi talented screwdriver for many jobs where a flat one doubles up as a scraper, a chisel, a paint lid remover, weed digger upper et al, and the pointy ones do hole punching amongst other things! ? AAAHHHHHGGGGGG, tool abuse ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Onoff said: From the left: "Adjustable" "Pliers: "Long nose" "Moles" (Mole grips being a particular brand of locking pliers like hoover means vacuum cleaner). "5 'oles" What do they all do though? Some of those things talk about cutting edges, yet other pliers there don’t seem to cut anything? That’s the local Asda’s range of tools btw! Probably crap but they are shiny ?. I think I have most of those tools already somewhere or another but they are not shiny as well used. I can’t get to grips ? with most things like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, newhome said: What do they all do though? Some of those things talk about cutting edges, yet other pliers there don’t seem to cut anything? That’s the local Asda’s range of tools btw! Probably crap but they are shiny ?. I think I have most of those tools already somewhere or another but they are not shiny as well used. I can’t get to grips ? with most things like that! 1 turns nuts or bolts of varying sizes. 2 grabs or squeezes things. Can cut cable or wire if needed 3 grabs or squeezes smaller things in tight spaces. 4 grabs things tight and locks on so you don't need to constantly squeeze 5 grabs and squeezes a bigger range of sizes. Usually used when you need to turn or hold pipe or conduit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 How do you ensure that you grab but do not cut? Is it a case of not grabbing too hard? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Grab with the grabby bit (tip) cut with the cutty bit (below the tip) only the pliers and long nose have cutty bits. The difference between grabbing and crushing is where squeezing too hard comes in. Especially with the mole grips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, newhome said: How do you ensure that you grab but do not cut? Is it a case of not grabbing too hard? ? Have a look at this list: it should help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, newhome said: A man after my own heart! I generally try to use the multi talented screwdriver for many jobs where a flat one doubles up as a scraper, a chisel, a paint lid remover, weed digger upper et al, and the pointy ones do hole punching amongst other things! ? Don't forget to always leave the tool at the scene of the job and never return it to any logical central storage. Helps you hit you 10,000k daily steps target as you wander around trying to remember where you last used it, discovering all you other abandoned tools as you go (but don't be tempted to collect them up as you now know where they are...). 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 56 minutes ago, Bitpipe said: but don't be tempted to collect them up as you now know where they are... I have a series of black buckets around a job and tools get put in those... Newtons 9th law of soddery says that the tool required is in the last bucket irrespective of order checked..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 44 minutes ago, Bitpipe said: Don't forget to always leave the tool at the scene of the job and never return it to any logical central storage. That’s generally the best approach I feel. Or do what I do and order a new one as you can’t find something whereupon it turns up almost as soon as the new one arrives! ? Leaving the drill outside in the pi55ing rain for 3 days probably wasn’t the best plan though. It’s now in the boiler room hopefully drying out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, PeterW said: I have a series of black buckets around a job and tools get put in those... Newtons 9th law of soddery says that the tool required is in the last bucket irrespective of order checked..... That’s too organised for me. Why have a collection of black buckets when there are 100s of more obscure hiding places to choose from! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, PeterW said: I have a series of black buckets around a job and tools get put in those... Newtons 9th law of soddery says that the tool required is in the last bucket irrespective of order checked..... "You always find something in the last place you look for it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Construction Channel Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, Bitpipe said: "You always find something in the last place you look for it". It's the people that carry on looking that I worry about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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