Pocster Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Right ! i can feel @Nickfromwales breath on my back already ! In the below ground domain we are having a wc . Its quite possible it’s location downstairs has to be moved . It will be under the parking area and on the opposite side to all the drainage ( typically ). As it stands the macerator would have to pump up 2 metres - then ‘around ‘ the stairwell , then horizontal for maybe 8 metres , then possibly vertical again ( less than 1 metre ) !!! Directly below this ‘exit’ point is the below ground kitchen sink ( which of course has a macerator) . I’m assuming the run for the wc is too long and convoluted ( diagram might help ) . So ! Could the wc macerator feed into the kitchen one to ‘eject’ waste ? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 If it is not too late, a small pump station would be better - much quieter and more reliable. I would rather burn the house down than live with a Saniflo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, Mr Punter said: If it is not too late, a small pump station would be better - much quieter and more reliable. I would rather burn the house down than live with a Saniflo. What’s the difference? A pump station just on the wc ? I.e it can pump that distance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mr Punter said: If it is not too late, a small pump station would be better - much quieter and more reliable. I would rather burn the house down than live with a Saniflo. His tenants will do that ... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jimbo Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Don't burn the house. get a potty...... Remember using one as a kid at my grans.....Nice............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, pocster said: Right ! i can feel @Nickfromwales breath on my back already ! In the below ground domain we are having a wc . Its quite possible it’s location downstairs has to be moved . It will be under the parking area and on the opposite side to all the drainage ( typically ). As it stands the macerator would have to pump up 2 metres - then ‘around ‘ the stairwell , then horizontal for maybe 8 metres , then possibly vertical again ( less than 1 metre ) !!! Directly below this ‘exit’ point is the below ground kitchen sink ( which of course has a macerator) . I’m assuming the run for the wc is too long and convoluted ( diagram might help ) . So ! Could the wc macerator feed into the kitchen one to ‘eject’ waste ? ??? Have a look at the MI’s as you can pump quite a distance with the turd crunchers Post a link to the weapon of choice, but agree to go for a pumping station and take the sink waste down to that to get rid of the macerator for the kitchen sink. Just on a hygiene POV I wouldn’t like to pump any McFlurry into the kitchen unit as that’s under immense pressure, and if it blew off you got yourself one fcuked up jet wash. ? I very much doubt SF would endorse that without an ‘open vented’ ( AAV capped ) pipe which would allow the McFlurry to fall to the second unit by gravity. Ew.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) all i would say is the macerators I have used are not very reliable and will need changing every couple of years if you are as lucky with them as I have been . so avoid like the plaque if possible one of them was just for a wash hand basin ,which only really ever got water down it no smelly solids Edited March 28, 2019 by scottishjohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: Have a look at the MI’s as you can pump quite a distance with the turd crunchers Post a link to the weapon of choice, but agree to go for a pumping station and take the sink waste down to that to get rid of the macerator for the kitchen sink. Just on a hygiene POV I wouldn’t like to pump any McFlurry into the kitchen unit as that’s under immense pressure, and if it blew off you got yourself one fcuked up jet wash. ? I very much doubt SF would endorse that without an ‘open vented’ ( AAV capped ) pipe which would allow the McFlurry to fall to the second unit by gravity. Ew.... Problem is wc is some distance from sink . So WC has to pump to near sink and exit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 Actually i’ve Just thought of a trick ! i can ( I think ) reduce the Maserati pump distance ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, pocster said: Actually i’ve Just thought of a trick ! i can ( I think ) reduce the Maserati pump distance ... Oh god, he’s putting a chocolate fountain in, which is what happens when a macerater goes wrong with an unfortunate failure mode. TMI? ? Edited March 28, 2019 by Ferdinand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Nothing would ever induce me to have another Saniflo (or any other macerator pump, for that matter). The things have so many annoying and unpleasant features, from being incredibly noisy (and they will randomly switch on, even if the toilet isn't flushed) to being the most unpleasant bit of kit to strip and unblock when it jams (as it will). Far, far better to run a gravity soil pipe out to a pump station and then pump up from that. My experience of living with a pump station was that it was silent and very reliable, completely the opposite of a Saniflo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I would be even more pragmatic. do you HAVE to have a WC in the basement? Everything in the thread so far has been a good reason NOT to have a WC in the basement. I woudl far sooner climb a flight of stairs when I need to go, than have all the "difficulties" with making s&!t defy gravity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Neil Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 7 hours ago, pocster said: As it stands the macerator would have to pump up 2 metres - then ‘around ‘ the stairwell , then horizontal for maybe 8 metres , then possibly vertical again ( less than 1 metre ) !!! Directly below this ‘exit’ point is the below ground kitchen sink ( which of course has a macerator) Sounds like a game of Mouse Trap - but for turds!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue B Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Maybe you have a use for the walk on rooflights. You could glaze over the pipe runs and have a real game if pooh sticks ?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 Now I understand a pump station- it’s not possible . No where to place it ! Onwards and upwards ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Neil Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Just now, pocster said: Onwards and upwards ! no no - away and down is where you want poo going - (sorry, will stop being childish now) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 If you MUST have a loo down there, how about a composting one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, ProDave said: If you MUST have a loo down there, how about a composting one? SWMBO will execute me ! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 11 hours ago, pocster said: SWMBO will execute me ! ? Then the 'no dung' rule must be brought into play Upstairs for U571, and downstairs for #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpd Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 14 hours ago, ProDave said: I would be even more pragmatic. do you HAVE to have a WC in the basement? Everything in the thread so far has been a good reason NOT to have a WC in the basement. I’m with proDave..... this just sounds like it could turn into another long thread on the same theme as the EPDM flat roof saga..... I don’t know if you, or anybody else wants to see you driven to the edge of madness trying to defy gravity with a turd as an example......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, pocster said: SWMBO will execute me ! ? Well, it is a solution. Or feed her and you anti-diarrhoea-etics whenever down there, so you get pellets like a guinea pig in your composting loo. I would suggest a loo at the top of the stairs. Ferdinand Edited March 29, 2019 by Ferdinand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 @pocster if you post a floor plan we can see if a pump station will work. If you have already cast the floor slab it may need a bit of breaking out though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Cpd said: I’m with proDave..... this just sounds like it could turn into another long thread on the same theme as the EPDM flat roof saga..... I don’t know if you, or anybody else wants to see you driven to the edge of madness trying to defy gravity with a turd as an example......... No, no no. This is a simple problem. Ripping up your own work to get it done again and still 'potentially' have leaks in a 'roof' - now that will drive you mad. This is known territory . Rough floorpan to show distance issues attached! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 Why make life easy when you can build underground!!!! ???? ( you can tell it's Friday! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 Ooooo - only just noticed I'm an "advanced member" does that mean I know lots of things or just that my penis is massive? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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