Russell griffiths Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 In the pic you can see timber cladding with a visible open join, what sort of backing do you think maybe behind this or do you think it would be open im open to any ideas in my area I’m worried that an open joint would be the hiding place for 30,000 spiders and other creepy crawlies would prefer fully sealed up with an air gap top and bottom with insect mesh on them. Cheers russ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stones Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I've seen open spaced timber cladding fitted over a simple membrane and recently over profile metal sheets. I would have thought roof overhang and how exposed the site is in terms of weather would dictate type of backing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_r_sole Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) . Edited September 26, 2019 by the_r_sole 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvincentd Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 But is that stuff uv stable....don’t want it falling apart after 2 years. I couldn’t find any that was so went for black coated metal insect mesh in that position......though the black coating will probably degrade too. It’s then tedious consistently spacing each board, with nothing to push up to in order to automatically create the right spacing (so make a spacer I hear you say). If you then view your wall from 45 degrees, with 20mm thick square cut cladding you’ll need a 20+mm spacing to appreciate it...... If the meeting board edges aren’t both square cut but at different angles they’ll stand off each other creating a deep shadow gap but also be fully ‘closed’. The perception of gap will be there. Or buy cladding that’s profiled for a shadow gap like https://www.vastern.co.uk/cladding/halflap-cladding/ , but these generally only chop back half the depth so seem to me less convincing. I might be talking rubbish on all this but it’s where my limited experience so far is leading me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_r_sole Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) . Edited September 26, 2019 by the_r_sole 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I went for a vertical board with a hidden fixing gives a bit of an impression of shadow gap from a distance. I have the black mesh behind too. I didnt want evey thing in town setting up home in my walls plus its better as rain screen not to have open I was told. I did a last minute swerve from cedar to larch as fell in love with this particular one. Got mine from Vincent timber in Birmingham and they have a good web site and helpful on phone too. Ironic really I searched the Uk for cladding and finally found it 20 miles down the road. Something I highly recommend ...and it was suggested by my ace carpenter is the aluminium ‘head’ cladding over windows. He said if just left as timber it woudl be the bit that deteriorated first and this gave it some shelter. Looks good with the windows too. We got the company who made our aluminium trims around the eps to fabricate them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bissoejosh Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) We're doing something very similar and are using a replica of VHL7 on this link. https://www.vastern.co.uk/cladding/halflap-cladding/ Looks like rain screen but is closed up by the half lap. We're not actually getting it from Vastern as we're having home grown larch machined by a nearby sawmill but if you want Siberian Vastern have been really helpful. Edited October 24, 2018 by bissoejosh added detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I used Cedral Horizontal not too bad . Vertical a real pain ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bissoejosh Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 hours ago, lizzie said: Something I highly recommend ...and it was suggested by my ace carpenter is the aluminium ‘head’ cladding over windows. He said if just left as timber it woudl be the bit that deteriorated first and this gave it some shelter. Looks good with the windows too. We got the company who made our aluminium trims around the eps to fabricate them. I like the look of this. Is it just an L shaped section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, bissoejosh said: I like the look of this. Is it just an L shaped section? Yes I have some spare in the garage can take a pic if you like. It give a really nice finish to the top of the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bissoejosh Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 hours ago, lizzie said: Yes I have some spare in the garage can take a pic if you like. It give a really nice finish to the top of the window. That would be really helpful thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 Thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Russell, I love that open jointed cladding - where is that pic from? I'd love to do something similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 On 24/10/2018 at 18:26, bissoejosh said: That would be really helpful thank you. Sorry I forgot yesterday. Here are some close ups of the fitted piece over the window and some of the piece as fabricated. As well as a bit that tucks around the larch there is a piece that goes up behind to deflect water. I have put spare piece against our bin store (made from left over larch) in pics hopefully that shows it. Let me know if not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 Hi @Tin Soldier I use a website called HOUZZE for ideas. Be careful it can get expensive looking at fancy things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 24/10/2018 at 09:12, the_r_sole said: https://novia.co.uk/breather-membranes/novia-black-115gsm-roof-and-wall-breather put that over the battens then fix timber on top At first sight, your answer solves the problem. But... Your suggestion means that the back of the timber would be in direct contact with the membrane. If that's the case, then would that not promote timber degradation where it is in contact with the membrane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willbish Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 24/10/2018 at 14:39, pocster said: How did you clad the gable? Was it 3 trestles high! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, willbish said: How did you clad the gable? Was it 3 trestles high! Lol i did contemplate that but as I’m not good with heights I got scaffolding in for that bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willbish Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, pocster said: Lol i did contemplate that but as I’m not good with heights I got scaffolding in for that bit Ive never contemplated 2 high but yours looks safe as houses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, willbish said: Ive never contemplated 2 high but yours looks safe as houses! I cheat If it wobbles I poop my pants So I build it up , screw the scaf planks together then screw that to the timber frame !! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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