CC45 Posted October 6, 2018 Posted October 6, 2018 Well I've finally had enough of forcing blunt drill bits through wood / metal. I've not got a grinding wheel & I've never used one to sharpen a drill bit so I'm tempted with one of those all in one jobs like https://drilldoctor.co.uk/products/drill-doctor-500x Does anyone have any experience of these? Cheers.
PeterW Posted October 6, 2018 Posted October 6, 2018 I use Bosch Multi Construction bits Pack of 4 will do pretty much anything. Screwfix have them on offer regularly.
Triassic Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) How about this one at £49 https://drilldoctor.co.uk/products/drill-doctor-360x?variant=7884879986739&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google Shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2rbTzODz3QIVCbTtCh1SZQ_ZEAQYAiABEgKMUPD_BwE or this one at just over £7 https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-cbs43-drill-bit-sharpener/?da=1&TC=GS-060711043&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2rbTzODz3QIVCbTtCh1SZQ_ZEAQYBSABEgJ-RPD_BwE Edited October 7, 2018 by Triassic
Ferdinand Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 11 hours ago, PeterW said: I use Bosch Multi Construction bits Pack of 4 will do pretty much anything. Screwfix have them on offer regularly. +1
Onoff Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 12 hours ago, PeterW said: I use Bosch Multi Construction bits Pack of 4 will do pretty much anything. Screwfix have them on offer regularly. +1. Spend a bit more money and get the version of these goes in the impact driver.
Onoff Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Triassic said: How about this one at £49 https://drilldoctor.co.uk/products/drill-doctor-360x?variant=7884879986739&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google Shopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2rbTzODz3QIVCbTtCh1SZQ_ZEAQYAiABEgKMUPD_BwE or this one at just over £7 https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-cbs43-drill-bit-sharpener/?da=1&TC=GS-060711043&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2rbTzODz3QIVCbTtCh1SZQ_ZEAQYBSABEgJ-RPD_BwE Great price on the Drill Doctor one. Buy it!
dpmiller Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 what's the difference between the normal "blue" multiconstruction and the unpainted "tile/ceramic" ones? Tip pattern looks very similar. like these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Bosch-Hex-9-Ceramic-IMPACT-CONTROL-SET-8-PIECE-SET/172798420362?hash=item283b96a58a
ToughButterCup Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Onoff said: +1. Spend a bit more money and get the version of these goes in the impact driver. +1 . Mine get nicked ...☹️
Construction Channel Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 17 hours ago, CC45 said: Well I've finally had enough of forcing blunt drill bits through wood / metal. I've not got a grinding wheel & I've never used one to sharpen a drill bit so I'm tempted with one of those all in one jobs like https://drilldoctor.co.uk/products/drill-doctor-500x Does anyone have any experience of these? Cheers. It depends how much your drill bits cost. Even if you have a nice set of hss g bits I still wouldn’t be spending £150 on a sharpener. £50 maybe as a new set will cost you double that, the multi bits are ok at most tasks but imho they’re not very good at any of them.
Vijay Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 Look out in your local Lidl, I bought one in there and it sharpens drill bits easily
Temp Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) I've had set of these for quite awhile and used them to drill holes in farm gate hinges (galvanised steel). Found them ok. Makita P-51873 HSS Titanium-Plated Drill Bit Set 16Pcs £25 https://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-p-51873-hss-titanium-plated-drill-bit-set-16pcs/94051 Yesterday I found them on Amazon for just £15 and have reordered. Should be here Monday. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007RCCPC0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Edited October 7, 2018 by Temp
Onoff Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Construction Channel said: It depends how much your drill bits cost. Even if you have a nice set of hss g bits I still wouldn’t be spending £150 on a sharpener. £50 maybe as a new set will cost you double that, the multi bits are ok at most tasks but imho they’re not very good at any of them. I quite like the Bosch multi construction bits. We deliberately did "the test" at work on a lump of timber, paving slab then steel plate. Coped admirably tbh though not so sure once they lose their edge. Dead handy to have one set in the leccy bag, another in the plumbing tote etc.
CC45 Posted October 7, 2018 Author Posted October 7, 2018 Right, I'm going to give that £50 drill doctor a go. I will report back once I've used it in anger. Thanks for the discussion. W
Onoff Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 Tbh you only need one drill for steel, a 6mm Starrett HsCo pilot drill. It'll drill most steel straight off with no messing. No good if you want a hole smaller than 6mm! Good in wood but useless in brick, stone etc!
joe90 Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 I bought these https://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-hss-drill-bit-trade-pack-150pcs/73567, was fed up with blunt drills and snapping them and waiting to get a replacement, I have a roll holder for one set and use the box as replacements when they snap or go blunt, pretty cheap for 150 drills.
CC45 Posted October 7, 2018 Author Posted October 7, 2018 I'm done with cheap drills - they just loose the edge so quick. Bought some jcb ones last week - just fantastic.
Construction Channel Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Onoff said: I quite like the Bosch multi construction bits. We deliberately did "the test" at work on a lump of timber, paving slab then steel plate. Coped admirably tbh though not so sure once they lose their edge. Dead handy to have one set in the leccy bag, another in the plumbing tote etc. I don’t disagree that they’re useful. Iv got quite a few of them about. But they’re not as good as the real thing at any task.
Onoff Posted October 7, 2018 Posted October 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Construction Channel said: I don’t disagree that they’re useful. Iv got quite a few of them about. But they’re not as good as the real thing at any task. A bit like the Evolution chop saws! Great for sheds & stud walls but no good for fine woodworking or through housings. 1
dpmiller Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 7 hours ago, CC45 said: I'm done with cheap drills - they just loose the edge so quick. Bought some jcb ones last week - just fantastic. Aren't JCB tools just a brand from Argos, like Bush or Grundig?
Onoff Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 55 minutes ago, dpmiller said: Aren't JCB tools just a brand from Argos, like Bush or Grundig? Alba make JCB power tools as I understand. I believe the name use is a licencing deal.
CC45 Posted October 8, 2018 Author Posted October 8, 2018 no idea but the JCB branded drills I bought have been very good. Lasted ages when drilling RSJ's.
dpmiller Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 Anyone had problems with Muticonstruction losing their tip inserts? Dunno whether the set I got are (very good) knockoffs, or if we're doing something wrong... Drilling clay roof tiles. Tip doesn't appear to be losing it's edge but randomly after maybe twenty holes- individual, with cooldown between- the bit goes smoking hot and melts the braze holding the insert in. Thoughts? The first one, we reckoned the impact gun was too high rpms so switched to a combi and it's happened to another two.
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