Some design advice please for a master bedroom thats just a bit off

[newhousebuild]

Some advice please on en suite and walk in wardrobe that we think are now going to be too small.

We can't move the door to bedroom 3 out to make more room for the wiw and the en suite because of where the door is positioned. We though of getting rid of the bedroom totally, but then we don't have a spare room if it's needed in the future.

We cant move the door in the master to the left to make the wiw/ensuite larger as the door cant be moved.

There was to be more wardrobe space behind the bed but this can be scrapped. Also we would like to have a window in the en suite.

Any help or advice appreciated. 

[PeterW]

Hi and welcome

 

Why do you think the ensuite will be small..? You could always change the door to open out as it currently takes up 25% of the room with the swing. Have you tried marking it out on a floor and trying it out..?

[Declan52]

Change the door to a sliding door to match the wiw. 

Both rooms aren't small either. En suite is near enough 8ft sq. 

The window in the ensuite can you not centralise it??

[newhousebuild]

Thanks guys.

 

We were thinking of a pocket door like the WIW so that will help. I have mapped out the en suite in our living room. I'll do it again with some basic measurements for shower, toilet and sink.

 

I think we will be going in for planning retention for the ensuite window and also the window in bedroom 3 to centralise that aswell.

 

Do you think the space behind the bed is wide enough for some wardrobe space? If we push the bed back against the wall (the chimney breast is not there now) we have a huge amount of space in the middle of the floor pretty much wasted.

 

Cheers

[ultramods]

I would say it depends on what you are wanting to achieve, what is your vision and priorities?

 

the ensuite and dressing room practically speaking are not small however they are not luxuriously large.

 

 

[Tin Soldier]

here you go, expertly done in mspaint

[ultramods]

9 minutes ago, newhousebuild said:

Thanks guys.

 

We were thinking of a pocket door like the WIW so that will help. I have mapped out the en suite in our living room. I'll do it again with some basic measurements for shower, toilet and sink.

 

I think we will be going in for planning retention for the ensuite window and also the window in bedroom 3 to centralise that aswell.

 

Do you think the space behind the bed is wide enough for some wardrobe space? If we push the bed back against the wall (the chimney breast is not there now) we have a huge amount of space in the middle of the floor pretty much wasted.

 

Cheers

 

I was planning pocket doors for our ensuites, however they mean you can't put sound insulation in that part of the wall, which put me off them, unless you want to make the wall double thickness.

 

Also the wardrobe space behind your bed might feel a bit cramped, if you assume 600mm wide for clothes hanging, that's a 500mm walkway.

Edited September 20, 2018 by ultramods

[newhousebuild]

4 minutes ago, Tin Soldier said:

here you go, expertly done in mspaint

Now why didnt I think of that! Thats pretty good Tin Soldier thanks for that!

[newhousebuild]

3 minutes ago, ultramods said:

 

I was planning pocket doors for our ensuites, however they mean you can't put sound insulation in that part of the wall, which put me off them, unless you want to make the wall double thickness.

I think we would be fine for the sound insulation not being there.

[PeterW]

Just double up the wall board and it should be fine - or use soundblock 

[ultramods]

 

 

You could maybe have two separate wardrobe areas bed the bed if the walkway depth is an issue.

 

And make the walk in wardrobe maybe 1600mm deep to get a bit more space in the ensuite if you wanted a larger shower area.

 

 

or thinking outside the box a little, change the layout to below.

 

Edited September 20, 2018 by ultramods

[Tyke2]

Looking completely out  of the box - Could you perhaps move the ensuite sanitary ware to the space behind the bed. The space could even be a bit wider looking at where the foot of the bed is. I have seen similar without even doors on (not my choice but each to their own)

The walk in wardrobe could then be twice as big or a combined WiW and dressing room.

 

[newhousebuild]

Hi Tyke2,

 

Yes I though about this and liked the idea but was shot down by the other half!

 

below is out of scale but you get the idea.

[newhousebuild]

37 minutes ago, ultramods said:

 

 

You could maybe have two separate wardrobe areas bed the bed if the walkway depth is an issue.

 

And make the walk in wardrobe maybe 1600mm deep to get a bit more space in the ensuite if you wanted a larger shower area.

 

 

or thinking outside the box a little, change the layout to below.

 

 

This is also very good. Thanks!!

[Tyke2]

I’m thinking more like this. 

Sirry for terrible sketching.

tweak the wiw  wall to the landing a bit too 

[newhousebuild]

Fixed!

 

Thanks for all the suggestions, especially to @Tin Soldier who solved our problem!

 

[ProDave]

If you are worried about the loo flushing bothering Bedroom 3, make that a thicker twin wall structure so the 2 sides are each their own structure if that makes sense, with insulation between.

[Bitpipe]

We have pocket sliding doors to all bathrooms and they work great. Sound will travel under the door anyway as you need an air gap for MVHR.

 

Our spare room backs onto the ensuite (bath and sink on the shared wall) - on the few times I've slept in there, the noise from the drains etc is quite noticeable. We only used standard PB - probably should have used soundblock (blue) for that wall as we did elsewhere.

[Tin Soldier]

Yay!

[newhousebuild]

We have also brought out the wall to make the WIW larger. Probably going to have the bed against the wall now.

 

What do you think?

 

[Hobbiniho]

looks good but i would be tempted to square the bedroom doors to the mezzanine not the bedrooms, might even give you enough room on the inside of the master bed door for light switches without going around the corner, certainly for bed 3 it will give more room inside and you could always move that door to in line with the WIW wall

[Mr Punter]

The bed in the middle looks bonkers to me. If you move it back you could have a sofa / chaise longue / table and chairs / dressing table / study area or whatever.