Onoff Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) No bfo clamps like this? If it will all bend flat under pressure using clamps, I'd be trying to keep the clamps on whilst the strong glue dries with the ply plates AND biscuits in place. Edited September 13, 2018 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Davies Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 2 hours ago, zoothorn said: I'd think with a belt sander it would be a breeze. I've had good luck with a Lidl belt sander for about £20. OK, I burned one out but did use it quite a lot to sand about 50 metres of 225x45 joists which had been stored outside partly covered and got somewhat weathered. Indeed, a breeze helps, use it outside on a windy day and the dust is SEP [¹]. [¹] Somebody Else's Problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 Thing is it'll be fixed in place/ inside.. the dust would be a n'mare considering I'm still having to use kitchen ad hoc same time. Im trying ewverything to mitigate against having to do this major sand job. at the mo I'm also a bit concerned with the join area not being supported anywhere near it to.. so I added this batten/ wondering too if it might be a Q of screwing from top down at a few points in to it @ edge, fill. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Onoff said: No bfo clamps like this? If it will all bend flat under pressure using clamps, I'd be trying to keep the clamps on whilst the strong glue dries with the ply plates AND biscuits in place. yup onoff got a few VG ones.. but won't help: I need to force it down -whilst- shifting it into place. The clamp will give me the pressure I need, but I cannot move xyz once its in use. I'm gonna have to go the elephant route + a slew of pretty coarse language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecateh Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Clamp it down - leave in place for a couple of days. Then with everything ready release the clamps and the boards should stay flat long enough to get them fixed in place and then quickly reclamp until the glue has cured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, zoothorn said: elephant route Elephant? They are excellent for catching your sanding dust, as long as you point it out of the window before it sneezes. Credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I raised my L shaped worktop formed of two pieces on little blocks atop the cabinet carcasses. This enabled me to get the clamps on to squeeze everything together whilst the glue dried. When dry I removed the blocks and lowered the now glued worktop onto the carcasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Go get a large neighbour to sit on it while you screw it to the base to ?. Or get the heaviest stuff you can find to put on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 All set to go.. christ the ammount of prep for this!! its do or die now.. will take the afternoon/ post a pic later. fingers xxxx'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Plate under the joint with some ply and glue it on and screw it on top like the photo I posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 Good lord I done it! hung 2 concrete blocks off the side, & carefully mm by mm tapped it home them swinging away under the sink! not perfect but a total result from the position I was in! jesusHchrist I need a beer.. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 10 hours ago, newhome said: Go get a large neighbour to sit on it while you screw it to the base ?. Or get the heaviest stuff you can find to put on it. I was thinking of big Betty @ no.23.. "why me?" erm.. er.. (because you have an enormous batty-?).. mm maybe Mr.Jones bye" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Cracking job well done !! Now get 3 or 4 coats of oil on that wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 Cheers Peter.. couldn't have got this result without your help tbh. Yes oil.. 1st coat tonight. i do notice the surface is a bit rough here n there.. I wacked oil on a cheapo pine door I hung, & noticed the roughness after i oiled. What sanding do you suggest, can you remind me? I'm not going nuts with a makita.. I'm talking hand sanding/ as little removed as poss. Won't it go light in patches when you sand it, taking away whatever the coat stuff is on tho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I’d go with 400 grit wet and dry (used dry) with a soft block and just de-nib the surface. Its fibres that have been lifted as the oil has been absorbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triassic Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Very nice job, well worth the time and effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Looks good! And breathe ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 Appreciated chaps. hadn't thought Id be able to have done this 1st thing AM. One thing I didnt do well/ I rushed, was the sink perimeter sealant. It did the ooze thing, but I ran a finger along.. & now ended up with thin film 1cm or so on surface adjacent to sink edge. What should I do? I'm thinking regarding the sanding > then oiling. Runa stanley blade gently around the perimeter onto the surface? or re-apply a sealant bead-? shoukld I hjave used a tool whatsit for this.. or is that only needed for shower trays etc-? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Spare sealant on the surface will scrape off with a blade. Then oil a couple more times. I’d get into the habit of clearing and oiling the surface once a month and it will build up a nice coating - I was surprised how water beaded on it even just with 2 coats. Just need to sort those walls and splash backs and you’ve cracked it ..! Probably have this finished before @Onoff gets a wall tile on .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 28 minutes ago, PeterW said: Probably have this finished before @Onoff gets a wall tile on .... Bigger problems with my old man at the mo! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 That doesn’t look good !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Oh dear, what’s he done? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, newhome said: Oh dear, what’s he done? ? Not to detract ftom zoot's thread but snapped the humerous off the elbow and broken the elbow as well. Pre existing brittle bones and circulatory issues. Fingers crossed....not that he can! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 Old chap had a fall onoff? sympathies. Re. the splashback.. what do you suggest for this? I was thinking a strip of wood, of which I have, albeit softwood.. but then hang on that's hardly waterproof tho is it. The splashback is only about 3-4cm. I'll tile the sill area ontop of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, zoothorn said: Appreciated chaps. hadn't thought Id be able to have done this 1st thing AM. One thing I didnt do well/ I rushed, was the sink perimeter sealant. It did the ooze thing, but I ran a finger along.. & now ended up with thin film 1cm or so on surface adjacent to sink edge. What should I do? I'm thinking regarding the sanding > then oiling. Runa stanley blade gently around the perimeter onto the surface? or re-apply a sealant bead-? shoukld I hjave used a tool whatsit for this.. or is that only needed for shower trays etc-? You're making a habit of this thinking you can't, moaning like f**k about it, then coming out the other side finding you can do it and pretty damn well too! Have faith! To apply a neat mastic bead I use old empty mastic tubes and a very weak solution of Fairy liquid. I'll try and do a little video. Edited September 13, 2018 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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