What's the case for not getting an ASHP?

[Beelbeebub]

1 hour ago, SteamyTea said:

Because of this.

 

And this

 

 

And we have historical responsibilities, that few of us want to take responsibility for.

 

 

This last chart is often used to pat ourselves on the back with, and to blame the rest of the world, which we have become very good at doing.

The "we're an insignificant bit of world co2 emissions so there is no point in doing anything..." argument annoys me so much.

 

1)it's usually made by people who, a few breaths ago, were proclaiming how important and world leading the UK is. It seems we the nation all others shoikd look to for all sorts of things, except climate change. 

 

2)the UK per capita emissions are around aboit mid pack. The real danger is if the vast numbers of people in developing nations who are currently emmiting less carbon per capita look at our lifestyle (cars, consumption, hearing, cooling etc) and think "I'll have some of that".  If the UK and other developed nations are moving down it makes it much more compelling to say "hey guys, why not skip the high emissions part of the cycle and meet us at the low emissions phase" 

 

3) renewable power is the cheapest power and the cost of power is a big driver of economic success. 

[Roger440]

1 hour ago, Beelbeebub said:

 

 

3) renewable power is the cheapest power and the cost of power is a big driver of economic success. 

 

Yep. And here we are with pretty much the most expensive power anywhere. And stuck with it. By choice.

 

I dont need to repeat myself do i?

 

 

 

[Beelbeebub]

8 minutes ago, Roger440 said:

 

Yep. And here we are with pretty much the most expensive power anywhere. And stuck with it. By choice.

 

I dont need to repeat myself do i?

 

 

 

Which i addressed.

 

If we had zero renewables and were fracking all day every day (which is the position of some in the political discourse) our electricity would be no cheaper and possibly more expensive. 

 

On the other hand, installing renewables offers the UK yhr chance of much greater energy independence. Sure we'll always need oil and gas for feedstocks and for situations we can't electrify (aviation comes to mind) but if we decouple our heating and transport (two big energy users) from gas and oil we'll be better off. 

 

And the most practical route to removing gas from our heating demand is Heatpumps.