Post and beam Posted August 12, 2024 Posted August 12, 2024 My in experience has landed me with an issue with water supply from Affinity water. Their date for a road closure is early November which is much later than i was led to believe when first talking to them. My Timber frame is due to be delivered 7th October, and obviously the groundworkers need welfare water prior to that. I guess i am not the first person that this has happened to so what options do i have to get water in sufficient quantity to site in the interval please?
Bonner Posted August 12, 2024 Posted August 12, 2024 We only had a porta-loo for welfare, no mains water needed for ground works. If they need water for washing down, ask them to bring a bowser, they will be used to working on unserviced sites. Alternatively have you got friendly neighbour with a hose pipe? 1
JohnMo Posted August 12, 2024 Posted August 12, 2024 Again port a loo. Ground worker provided and invoiced me until I was finished with it, hire company serviced it weekly. Site water was via a 1m3 plastic tank. Which we filled around twice. All concrete was ready mix.
Post and beam Posted August 12, 2024 Author Posted August 12, 2024 On 12/08/2024 at 14:34, JohnMo said: All concrete was ready mix. Expand Agree and hopefully this wont be an issue. The Brickies will need a lot of water though i guess. My TF company insist on running hot water for welfare though.
Post and beam Posted August 12, 2024 Author Posted August 12, 2024 On 12/08/2024 at 14:07, Bonner said: Alternatively have you got friendly neighbour with a hose pipe? Expand Yes but i am reluctant to ask, self sufficiency and all that. I did discover that metered water is billed by the cubic metre at £1.20/ m3. So that is .12 pence per litre.
BadgerBadger Posted August 12, 2024 Posted August 12, 2024 We were in a similar situation and did all of groundworks and substructure without mains. Relied on neighbours with a hosepipe, a m3 of water is really quite a lot so we just sent them a thank you card, box of biscuits and £20 once we were connected. We filled big blue barrels of water for the brickies to use and had a chemical toilet in a shed to save on portaloo hire (which adds up very quickly) Got mains sewer connection in very early, so I could empty chemical loo on-site. Only once did I have to put it in my car and take it home, not recommended!
Timedout Posted August 12, 2024 Posted August 12, 2024 Been in this position twice. On both occasions I did a deal with the nearest neighbour. I paid the whole of their water bill until our new supply was connected in exchange for using their supply. Sounds expensive but is far better than being delayed or having to trail water to site in a bowser. A bit of generous goes a long way in neighbour relations.
Kelvin Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 The water companies don’t want chemical toilets emptied into their system so I wouldn’t recommend doing that. I got by for months with no water on-site. It’s when you get to the wet trades you need it obviously.
Post and beam Posted August 13, 2024 Author Posted August 13, 2024 On 12/08/2024 at 20:18, Timedout said: I paid the whole of their water bill until our new supply was connected in exchange for using their supply. Sounds expensive but is far better than being delayed or having to trail water to site in a bowser. A bit of generous goes a long way in neighbour relations. Expand Thanks, this is the most sensible bit of advice. I will make the approach . On 13/08/2024 at 05:47, Kelvin said: I got by for months with no water on-site. Expand How long ago, or did you do everything yourself. As i said my TF company are insisting on running hot water under the welfare provision.
ProDave Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 On 13/08/2024 at 07:26, Post and beam said: How long ago, or did you do everything yourself. As i said my TF company are insisting on running hot water under the welfare provision. Expand Buy the cheapest small touring caravan you can. It will have a toilet, a sink with running water and a water heater. You will need to fetch water to keep filling it's tank, but it will be far cheaper than hiring a portaloo and will give them somewhere dry to have a break etc. 1
joe90 Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 On 13/08/2024 at 05:47, Kelvin said: The water companies don’t want chemical toilets emptied into their system Expand If you use pink toilet fluid rather than blue that’s ok to put down drains or put into septic tanks etc.
G and J Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 On 13/08/2024 at 07:59, joe90 said: If you use pink toilet fluid rather than blue that’s ok to put down drains or put into septic tanks etc. Expand Just to be awkward we use the green one (teabag style in fact) in our campervan potty. We thought that was ok with drains and septic tanks, etc. Do I need to go over to Barbie Pink Potty Juice?
ProDave Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 I thought the pink stuff was what goes in the flush water. The stuff you pre dose the holding tank with comes in green or blue, green being the less bad one. But it is years since I have bought any as it lasts so long. If you don't have drainage, you could always did a deep pit in an out of the way bit of your site and just pour it in there. Years ago that used to be standard practice on remote caravan sites, they filled it in at the end of the year and dug a new pit for next year.
Jilly Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 Have you thought about a compost loo? Much better than the blue stinky thing 😊
joe90 Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 My bad, your right it was green stuff (years since I had a touring caravan) and with one of my projects i emptied the chemical loo in a deep pit on site and the neighbour kindly let me use water from his outside tap on his greenhouse.
G and J Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 (edited) On 13/08/2024 at 08:10, ProDave said: If you don't have drainage, you could always did a deep pit in an out of the way bit of your site and just pour it in there. Years ago that used to be standard practice on remote caravan sites, they filled it in at the end of the year and dug a new pit for next year. Expand I’ve helped at scout camps with facilities like that. Don’t think that’s allowed for such things any more. Edited August 13, 2024 by G and J Fat finger typo removal! I really must put my glasses on and rely less on the spillchocker.
saveasteading Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 On 12/08/2024 at 19:06, BadgerBadger said: empty chemical loo on-site. Expand I think it is supposed to go for specialist treatment. For obvious reasons the blue liquid kills bugs, and will at the sewage works too.
Kelvin Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 It has little to do with the colour of the stuff and everything to do with the chemicals. It’ll be marked on the packaging if they are septic tank safe. The old chemicals used formaldehyde which is much less common nowadays.
Kelvin Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 On 13/08/2024 at 07:26, Post and beam said: Thanks, this is the most sensible bit of advice. I will make the approach . How long ago, or did you do everything yourself. As i said my TF company are insisting on running hot water under the welfare provision. Expand A year ago. The TF erection company didn’t want anything other than a portaloo. If i had needed to provide hot water I’d have bought a cheap as chips caravan. The erection team won’t be on-site for long (assuming all they are doing is erecting the kit) so you could just hire an all in one welfare hut.
mike2016 Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 I'm using a 200L barrel with 3 x 30L jerry cans I ferry back and forth with my car to keep the barrel filled up. Portaloo with hand sanitizing gel to wash hands (v high alcohol content). This got me through foundations and all bricklaying. Funny think is I have a 4,000L rainwater tank out back but it's not hooked up yet to anything!
G and J Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 Hmmmm, wonder if I dig a big hole and throw this in whether that would work on my ridiculously sandy subsoil….. https://www.septic-tanks-emptied.co.uk/index.php/shop/septic-tank-white
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