ToughButterCup Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Tomato, tomaydo, potahto potayto, Bosch, DeWalt, Durisol, Izodom. Customers are responsible for their own purchase decisions. And everyone needs to do their Due Diligence. Thoroughly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, ToughButterCup said: And everyone needs to do their Due Diligence. Thoroughly. Can still get robbed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 OP, why not just flush the system, replace the PHE, and carry on- for now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, dpmiller said: OP, why not just flush the system, replace the PHE, and carry on- for now? That’s the quickest route to get up and running, even if that goes on to borrowed time again. Then the immediate pressure will be off you, and we can work on a solution / investigation of what is actually causing this contamination. I’ve pulled out 20 year old systems with less crud in them tbh. Was the water that was flowing through that elbow ( in your pic ) potable water or primary heating water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 29/03/2022 at 10:48, Nelliekins said: This elbow was between the PHE and the cylinder, so I am expecting this throughout now... The elbow full of mineral deposits was in the recirculating side. This closed circuit was presumably filled originally from the same water supply that's constantly flowing fresh water through the other side of the PHE, heated to roughly the same temperature, so may well be be even more contaminated. It looks like extremely hard water to me. As I said earlier, a water softener would be one way to make this scheme work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelliekins Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, Radian said: The elbow full of mineral deposits was in the recirculating side. This closed circuit was presumably filled originally from the same water supply that's constantly flowing fresh water through the other side of the PHE, heated to roughly the same temperature, so may well be be even more contaminated. It looks like extremely hard water to me. As I said earlier, a water softener would be one way to make this scheme work. That's the weird thing - our water is not that hard. I previously misread this information, and reported the Clarke value as PPM - it's actually 75ppm, which is still relatively low IIRC. Circulating pump is coming out this afternoon to be inspected / cleaned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobLe Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 24/03/2022 at 18:13, Nelliekins said: The cylinder is being kept at approx 70C That's hotter than we've ever kept ours - lower would reduce hard water precipitation and improve boiler efficiency. You won't get as many showers out of it, but a 30kW boiler could easily play catch up with a single shower output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 59 minutes ago, Nelliekins said: That's the weird thing - our water is not that hard. I previously misread this information, and reported the Clarke value as PPM - it's actually 75ppm, which is still relatively low IIRC. Circulating pump is coming out this afternoon to be inspected / cleaned. Something's not adding up with that report. There seem to be some pockets of hard water nearby Chorley, maybe your getting your supply from one of those areas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelliekins Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 The statement from UU is that "the water supply to this area can vary in hardness from soft to slightly hard". That seems a total cop-out to me. But Worthington Lakes are literally 2 miles from our house (we are south of Chorley on the border with Greater Manchester) so there is every chance our village gets water from there. And the water there is definitely soft. I might just get it tested, though, to be on the safe side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Nelliekins said: might just get it tested, though, to be on the safe side! What is the inside of your kettle like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 37 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: What is the inside of your kettle like. 'Slaps forehead' 👆 Pure Genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, Radian said: 'Slaps forehead' 👆 Pure Genius. What they should look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 44 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: What they should look like. That's what ours looks like. I like living in Cornwall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Radian said: 'Slaps forehead' 👆 Pure Genius. @SteamyTeahas a hit rate of about 1:1000 posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, Gone West said: That's what ours looks like. I like living in Cornwall. It’s probably all the lead and tin keeping the scale away 🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Russell griffiths said: It’s probably all the lead and tin keeping the scale away Uranium and Lithium. 4 hours ago, Bitpipe said: @SteamyTeahas a hit rate of about 1:1000 posts ProDave 0.37%, SteamyTea 0.63%, PeterW 0.4% and the winner, @joe90 0.74% Edited March 31, 2022 by SteamyTea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelliekins Posted April 1, 2022 Author Share Posted April 1, 2022 Hah, we have a boiling water tap, no kettle! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 15 hours ago, Russell griffiths said: It’s probably all the lead and tin keeping the scale away No, we're in the nice bit of Cornwall. It's the sandstone filtering the water around here rather than the chalk where we used to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, Nelliekins said: Hah, we have a boiling water tap, no kettle! 😂 and what's the filter and scale situation on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 38 minutes ago, Nelliekins said: Hah, we have a boiling water tap, no kettle Not for long with your water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, Gone West said: 16 hours ago, Russell griffiths said: It’s probably all the lead and tin keeping the scale away No, we're in the nice bit of Cornwall. It's the sandstone filtering the water around here Don't filter out the Devon Farmer's nitrates too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 1 minute ago, SteamyTea said: Don't filter out the Devon Farmer's nitrates too well. But surely that all goes into the Tamar and heads fir Plymouth? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: Don't filter out the Devon Farmer's nitrates too well. You will all be growing extra fingers, oh hold on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: You will all be growing extra fingers, oh hold on I only need two. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelliekins Posted April 1, 2022 Author Share Posted April 1, 2022 1 hour ago, dpmiller said: and what's the filter and scale situation on it? Filter replaced every year, but only because of a note on the calendar. No noticeable issues with flow or water quality from the boiling water. Tap itself gets cleaned maybe once a month, never noticed any scale on the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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