Pocster Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Ok - title slightly mis leading ! SWMBO inspected my ensuite effort so far , I was given the thumbs up ! ????? Unfortunately she is now delusional that my tiling skills are not finite ! And so forms her vision ..... The grey stripped mosaic tiles will run in a vertical strip floor to ceiling ( 2 strips in the bathroom somewhere ) . The pale tiles also run vertical but joints staggered ? So ! My assumption this is more tricky and therefore more prone to f up’s . For starters tiling ‘conventially’ i.e horizontally you start half a course up to allow for the bottom tiles to be cut to suit the floor level . No floor tiles are going down until walls done as that feels like a big job full of fun in itself . Therefore how do I start my strips ? I should of done a sh*t tiling job in the ensuite then SWMBO would of expected less ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 I always tile floor first, so wall tile comes down onto floor tile. Less chance of a leak and looks correct. But then i always tile up from the floor, cutting the bottom edge if needed to get the top of the first row level. But I don't tile much. Multipanel is SO much easier for walls. So you start your strip in this case just as any other row, a little but up from the floor? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 44 minutes ago, pocster said: Ok - title slightly mis leading ! SWMBO inspected my ensuite effort so far , I was given the thumbs up ! ????? Unfortunately she is now delusional that my tiling skills are not finite ! And so forms her vision ..... The grey stripped mosaic tiles will run in a vertical strip floor to ceiling ( 2 strips in the bathroom somewhere ) . The pale tiles also run vertical but joints staggered ? So ! My assumption this is more tricky and therefore more prone to f up’s . For starters tiling ‘conventially’ i.e horizontally you start half a course up to allow for the bottom tiles to be cut to suit the floor level . No floor tiles are going down until walls done as that feels like a big job full of fun in itself . Therefore how do I start my strips ? I should of done a sh*t tiling job in the ensuite then SWMBO would of expected less ? You can go either way Plenty do Walls first You don’t want to damage or stain those nearly laid floor tiles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 So a compromise in this case: Tile the floor before you fill in the missing bottom half row of tiles? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, ProDave said: So a compromise in this case: Tile the floor before you fill in the missing bottom half row of tiles? No doing the floor ! That’s a whole new set of issues ! 1 problem at a time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, pocster said: No doing the floor ! Didn't know you were Scottish... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, Onoff said: Didn't know you were Scottish... I’m not a tight runt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, pocster said: I’m not a tight runt Oh, I don't know... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Onoff said: Oh, I don't know... ? Typo ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) Is the principle not that you ignore everything we say and do it your own way that we all tell you that it will be a disaster, and it takes 3 times as long? As evidenced by the sprayed ceiling? That way fups are reduced by 67% per unit time because you have only done the other 33% of the project? Ferdinand PS No abusive, prejudiced, anti-@pocster assumptions or unwarranted and unjustified floccinaucinihilipilifications have been made in this post. PPS /lie PPPS Have a Fogcutter and you will not remember any of it anyway. PPPPS Before you do, where does one find that sort of delusional optimistic SWMBO? I just got clearance from the medics for a sort-of social life. Edited September 4, 2020 by Ferdinand 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassanclan Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 I always start marking out from the windowsill height. If you have any sense any boxing in etc is set at the same height as you windowsill and follows round, so a whole tile(s) goes below the windowsill, then a cut to the floor. With staggered vertical joints there would be a half tile. Spend a bit of time laying it right out now and it will save you a lot of messing about later 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJohnG Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 6 hours ago, pocster said: I’m not a tight runt Clearly not Scottish runt is spelt with a C in Scotland... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 5 hours ago, SuperJohnG said: Clearly not Scottish runt is spelt with a C in Scotland... That's it, nice subtle humour, you don't offend anyone then! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 That will be runc then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 9 hours ago, bassanclan said: I always start marking out from the windowsill height. If you have any sense any boxing in etc is set at the same height as you windowsill and follows round, so a whole tile(s) goes below the windowsill, then a cut to the floor. With staggered vertical joints there would be a half tile. Spend a bit of time laying it right out now and it will save you a lot of messing about later Excellent points. I wish I had hindsight, I might then have started at the window like you say, dropped the pockets in line and the long dwarf wall/shelf to the right. Luckily all my tiles are stuck on with Blu Tack so I'll change it over the weekend... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 11 hours ago, bassanclan said: I always start marking out from the windowsill height. If you have any sense any boxing in etc is set at the same height as you windowsill and follows round, so a whole tile(s) goes below the windowsill, then a cut to the floor. With staggered vertical joints there would be a half tile. Spend a bit of time laying it right out now and it will save you a lot of messing about later No boxing in just 1 small window . Will use that as a guide for at least what height tiles start at ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Ferdinand said: Is the principle not that you ignore everything we say and do it your own way that we all tell you that it will be a disaster, and it takes 3 times as long? As evidenced by the sprayed ceiling? That way fups are reduced by 67% per unit time because you have only done the other 33% of the project? Ferdinand PS No abusive, prejudiced, anti-@pocster assumptions or unwarranted and unjustified floccinaucinihilipilifications have been made in this post. PPS /lie PPPS Have a Fogcutter and you will not remember any of it anyway. PPPPS Before you do, where does one find that sort of delusional optimistic SWMBO? I just got clearance from the medics for a sort-of social life. Well ! I have no opinion whether floors or walls get done first . But I don’t want to do the floor first . Lots of reasons . I haven’t done all the drainage in the bathroom yet . Don’t have a bath so not sure where waste is going . Don’t want to risk dropping tools on tile floor . Worried bathroom floor tiles won’t be flush with hallway tiles ( planned to do them first ) . Bathroom tiles are different to hallway ones - I want the tile change to be under the bathroom door when closed ( so you don’t see the wrong tile from either side ) . Hot water and a sink on site would be nice , floor doesn’t help me there . Don’t want floor down as bound to get filthy . Regarding my spray painting . The result is fine . But can’t do whole house as it’s not finished ! . Too much gear / materials in the way . Trying to break it up into smaller manageable jobs . Using up materials and making space ! Edited September 5, 2020 by pocster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I was happy I tiled the floor first tbh. Meant I got a near perfect 1mm gap between the bottom wall tile and floor. I did though have to tape Correx sheets down on the finished floor and leave a nominal gap all round to do the wall tiling. Left me a bit to clean up around the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 14 hours ago, Ferdinand said: Is the principle not that you ignore everything we say and do it your own way that we all tell you that it will be a disaster, and it takes 3 times as long? As evidenced by the sprayed ceiling? That way fups are reduced by 67% per unit time because you have only done the other 33% of the project? Ferdinand PS No abusive, prejudiced, anti-@pocster assumptions or unwarranted and unjustified floccinaucinihilipilifications have been made in this post. PPS /lie PPPS Have a Fogcutter and you will not remember any of it anyway. PPPPS Before you do, where does one find that sort of delusional optimistic SWMBO? I just got clearance from the medics for a sort-of social life. Apologies my response a little blunt ; @Ferdinand The plan now is Baton as usual around the floor . Vertical tiles off of that . Once floor tiles down , make upstands from floor tiles to go at the base of the walls . Thereby this allows all criteria to be met ! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Well it wasn't as if my original heckle wasn't blunt ... ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplysimon Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 19 hours ago, pocster said: I’m not a tight runt must be, haven't given walk on glazing away yet, still trying to sell it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplysimon Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 7 hours ago, SteamyTea said: That will be runc then nope, jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassanclan Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Before you use the window as your starting point you really should take some measurements around the room and see if t will work. Also are you going to fully tile all walls or have some half height? I always do some half height and then full walls around baths/showers as it can be a bit oppressive as fully tiled (and it saves tiles), but that's personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 hours ago, bassanclan said: Before you use the window as your starting point you really should take some measurements around the room and see if t will work. Also are you going to fully tile all walls or have some half height? I always do some half height and then full walls around baths/showers as it can be a bit oppressive as fully tiled (and it saves tiles), but that's personal preference. I like oppressive . Like a deep dark dungeon where no one can escape . Floor to ceiling almost all of it , ceiling slopes towards window so obviously that will be lower . I want the bathroom to install fear and trepidation into its victims . Also with especially those mosaic type tiles much easier to hide a camera ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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