Onoff Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, zoothorn said: No, but like ancient proverb say 'unless evidence of trapped air don't fk with radiator'. No rad key tbh anyway. Reminds me of an old Kentish proverb "Man who no spend 69p at Screwfix, right c**t!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Onoff said: Reminds me of an old Kentish proverb "Man who no spend 69p at Screwfix, right c**t!" hahaha. I like that- very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Seriously did none of the visiting "engineers" bleed the radiators at any time? What about at the time of install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) You should really tbh go round once a year at least and bleed your rads as a matter of course. The new rads might have come with keys, often little plastic ones. Any left over bits anywhere? Edited January 21, 2021 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, Onoff said: So the rads haven't been bled? You could humour me for the seconds it would involve to take a radiator key to them and see if any air comes out. I said this many many pages ago ! Just open the rad valve and see if water or air comes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, pocster said: I said this many many pages ago ! Just open the rad valve and see if water or air comes out Hope or maybe will to live?? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Declan52 said: Hope or maybe will to live?? If it’s 53 pages to just bleed rads I’m going to go ape sh*t 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, pocster said: If it’s 53 pages to just bleed rads I’m going to go ape sh*t ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, pocster said: I said this many many pages ago ! Just open the rad valve and see if water or air comes out You did indeed, page 22 of 53, November 29th 2020! ? Tbh I must have subconsciously missed that, any sentence you write containing the word "bleeding" brings back painful memories... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Now though we must all wait as @zoothorn bleeds the rads ..... Not argue . Not complain . But does it ..... suspense !!! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan52 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Who wants to explain that "bleed a radiator" doesn't actually involve blood or a cut or anything of a medical nature. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just now, Declan52 said: Who wants to explain that "bleed a radiator" doesn't actually involve blood or a cut or anything of a medical nature. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoothorn Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 Seriously.. bleeding the rads isonly just now being advised?? Ive never had CH with rads before.. but you guys have for decades? All ive ever known isif top of rad is cold it suggests air in, & i bled one of my folks one once 20 yrs ago. Oh I just love the way this is meant to show up my ineptitude! Nothing suggestsair trapped afaict (?) or would've been advised 1st up '53 pages ago" (tho its a thread on extention final xyz, alot for me hence length.. not a thread on a problematic CH not fixed after 8x visits, badly installed by apes Im unable to contact).. i mean wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 hours ago, zoothorn said: Seriously.. bleeding the rads isonly just now being advised?? Ive never had CH with rads before.. but you guys have for decades? All ive ever known isif top of rad is cold it suggests air in, & i bled one of my folks one once 20 yrs ago. Oh I just love the way this is meant to show up my ineptitude! Nothing suggestsair trapped afaict (?) or would've been advised 1st up '53 pages ago" (tho its a thread on extention final xyz, alot for me hence length.. not a thread on a problematic CH not fixed after 8x visits, badly installed by apes Im unable to contact).. i mean wouldn't it? I'm already regretting popping that radiator key in the post to you this morning. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJNewton Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 hours ago, zoothorn said: Seriously.. bleeding the rads isonly just now being advised?? Ive never had CH with rads before.. but you guys have for decades? All ive ever known isif top of rad is cold it suggests air in, & i bled one of my folks one once 20 yrs ago. Personally, if the tops of the radiators are as hot as the flow pipe I wouldn't expect there to be an air/bleeding issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, MJNewton said: Personally, if the tops of the radiators are as hot as the flow pipe I wouldn't expect there to be an air/bleeding issue. Are they, do we have that confirmed? Strap a sensor on the flow pipe and top of rad then post a pic for all to see would be good. Maybe not a bleed issue but for the SECONDS it takes to do, in light of the grief he's had/having, why wouldn't you try bleeding. It's central heating 101 tbh! Edited January 22, 2021 by Onoff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJNewton Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, Onoff said: Maybe not, but for the SECONDS it takes to do, in light of the grief he's had/having, why wouldn't you try bleeding. Oh absolutely. I am just fearing 10 pages of getting everyone's hopes up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, MJNewton said: Oh absolutely. I am just fearing 10 pages of getting everyone's hopes up. I just felt this might create a lull to give everyone a rest, gather their thoughts, seek therapy etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJNewton Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, zoothorn said: Seriously.. bleeding the rads isonly just now being advised?? Didn't spot this line Zoot. Please show a little respect here. People are just offering suggestions - anything that might help you out - so don't complain about the order of advice given. There's no harm checking the basics have been done as with over 50(!) pages it's easy to lose track of what's been said. If you're not happy with our service ask for your money back. Edited January 22, 2021 by MJNewton 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 hours ago, zoothorn said: badly installed by apes Im unable to contact Hmm... so despite us telling you it’s not installed correctly, and you defending the system and installers, you now admit it’s not installed correctly. The fact they didn’t insulate the pipes (a requirement of the Building Regulations it was installed under) says that it’s not correctly installed. @MJNewton you deserve a knighthood for your patience here ..!! @zoothorn , now assuming you no longer think I’m an idiot for my advice (although I think by rejoining I may be one) there are 4 copper pipes at the bottom of the internal unit. When the heating is running, the right pair will get warm, when hot water is running, the left pair will get warm. Connect a pair of thermostats to the right pair, click the heating on and wait 10 minutes and then read the values off. If the one you have doesn’t look like the bottom of this, then take a photo of it, and post it here. Just a picture of the pipes coming out, no essay, just a picture.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJNewton Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, PeterW said: MJNewton you deserve a knighthood for your patience here ..!! Truth be told I have actually 'left' a couple of times now but keep coming back. I can't help but feel we've all spent so much time and effort on this - and it really has been very hard work at times - that it'd be good to see it through to completion. Closure perhaps. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 48 minutes ago, MJNewton said: Oh absolutely. I am just fearing 10 pages of getting everyone's hopes up. Of course if bleeding the rads is the issue ( or a contributing factor ) he might then need to top it up via the refill loop ... dare we open Pandora’s box 2 ? Can’t we have more unrelated door stuff - that seemed to be moving in the right direction 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 40 minutes ago, MJNewton said: Truth be told I have actually 'left' a couple of times now but keep coming back. I can't help but feel we've all spent so much time and effort on this - and it really has been very hard work at times - that it'd be good to see it through to completion. Closure perhaps. Masochist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJNewton Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, pocster said: Of course if bleeding the rads is the issue ( or a contributing factor ) he might then need to top it up via the refill loop ... dare we open Pandora’s box 2 ? Ah, yes. It's okay though I think - @Onoff volunteered to sort that out. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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