Pocster Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Front door looks the absolute b*llocks ! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Looks good. You will be raided by a slimline Banana Burglar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGrahamT21 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Is that a finger print reader? Must have set you back a few bob! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, MikeGrahamT21 said: Is that a finger print reader? Must have set you back a few bob! If it is that'd be a bummer for me. After a day on the concrete or smashing holes in a wall, my phone steadfastly refuses to accept my fingerprint. Yes @pocster that is a really nice door. There's nothing more welcoming than a really well proportioned door. Looks to me as if you're as scared of losing the keys as we are ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 My 'phone is pretty abysmal at reading my fingerprint, too. Never yet had it work first time, and probably half the time it defaults to having to enter a PIN to unlock it. When we tried fingerprint readers on doors at work they had the same sort of problems, so we switched to retinal scanners, that seemed to be a great deal more reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, MikeGrahamT21 said: Is that a finger print reader? Must have set you back a few bob! It is ! A bit unnecessary I agree - but what the hell - that time I forget my key I’ll be glad of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jeremy Harris said: My 'phone is pretty abysmal at reading my fingerprint, too. Never yet had it work first time, and probably half the time it defaults to having to enter a PIN to unlock it. When we tried fingerprint readers on doors at work they had the same sort of problems, so we switched to retinal scanners, that seemed to be a great deal more reliable. You need iPhone with face recognition- pretty reliable ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 57 minutes ago, MikeGrahamT21 said: Is that a finger print reader? Must have set you back a few bob! 44 minutes ago, Jeremy Harris said: My 'phone is pretty abysmal at reading my fingerprint, too. Never yet had it work first time, and probably half the time it defaults to having to enter a PIN to unlock it. When we tried fingerprint readers on doors at work they had the same sort of problems, so we switched to retinal scanners, that seemed to be a great deal more reliable. We've had a fingerprint scanner on our RK door for over four years now. Back in 2015 it was a £500 option but I think it has been well worth it. I've programmed on 8 fingers for each of us (doesn't do thumbs) and it's worked great - far more sensitive & reliable than the phone fingerprint scanners. Only real issue i've had is when working with blocks etc and my fingertips have been abraded - I've only needed to re-program my fingers in once in that time, everyone else has been fine. I always carry a key for emergencies but the kids have never had a key to the door and therefore have never been in the position of forgetting or loosing them and getting locked out. We can also pop a neighbours fingerprint on if they're looking after the place while we're away and then delete it on our return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedreamer Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 How to set the fingerprint? Can you do this yourself or do have to do this when ordering? Looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedreamer Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bitpipe said: We've had a fingerprint scanner on our RK door for over four years now. Back in 2015 it was a £500 option but I think it has been well worth it. I've programmed on 8 fingers for each of us (doesn't do thumbs) and it's worked great - far more sensitive & reliable than the phone fingerprint scanners. Only real issue i've had is when working with blocks etc and my fingertips have been abraded - I've only needed to re-program my fingers in once in that time, everyone else has been fine. I always carry a key for emergencies but the kids have never had a key to the door and therefore have never been in the position of forgetting or loosing them and getting locked out. We can also pop a neighbours fingerprint on if they're looking after the place while we're away and then delete it on our return. Ok that answers my question. On site. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, Thedreamer said: Ok that answers my question. On site. When the door is open, there is a control panel in the internal face that closes into the wall. Bit of a faff but you add a new user and then add each finger one at a time by swiping down 3 times per finger and you get a confirmation that it's been successful. You can add from 1 to 8 fingers per person and I believe 99 people Easy to delete people also. Fingerprints survive over a power cut as they're written into non volatile memory. Everything is contained in the door and all you need to add is power - ours came with a long multi core cable and a DV converter. During plastering, the cable got severed but we got a replacement and managed to get it all hooked up again. There is definitely provision to patch it into a home automation system but as we don't have one, not an option for us. Also the newer version has wifi and bluetooth I think to enable remote opening, not something I'm keen on from a security perspective so don't miss it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGrahamT21 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, pocster said: It is ! A bit unnecessary I agree - but what the hell - that time I forget my key I’ll be glad of it Very nice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, Bitpipe said: We've had a fingerprint scanner on our RK door for over four years now. Back in 2015 it was a £500 option but I think it has been well worth it. I've programmed on 8 fingers for each of us (doesn't do thumbs) and it's worked great - far more sensitive & reliable than the phone fingerprint scanners. Only real issue i've had is when working with blocks etc and my fingertips have been abraded - I've only needed to re-program my fingers in once in that time, everyone else has been fine. I always carry a key for emergencies but the kids have never had a key to the door and therefore have never been in the position of forgetting or loosing them and getting locked out. We can also pop a neighbours fingerprint on if they're looking after the place while we're away and then delete it on our return. Great ! I did ask the installer if thumbs were ok - he said yes . Maybe a newer model ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joth Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 @pocster is yours a RK door too? Mind sharing U-value and aprx cost? It looks lovely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 40 minutes ago, Bitpipe said: When the door is open, there is a control panel in the internal face that closes into the wall. Bit of a faff but you add a new user and then add each finger one at a time by swiping down 3 times per finger and you get a confirmation that it's been successful. You can add from 1 to 8 fingers per person and I believe 99 people Easy to delete people also. Fingerprints survive over a power cut as they're written into non volatile memory. Everything is contained in the door and all you need to add is power - ours came with a long multi core cable and a DV converter. During plastering, the cable got severed but we got a replacement and managed to get it all hooked up again. There is definitely provision to patch it into a home automation system but as we don't have one, not an option for us. Also the newer version has wifi and bluetooth I think to enable remote opening, not something I'm keen on from a security perspective so don't miss it. Will add into HA . When I’m underground and someone presses the doorbell - will push a Cctv image to a wall mounted iPad then I can unlock the door remotely if I wish . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, pocster said: Great ! I did ask the installer if thumbs were ok - he said yes . Maybe a newer model ??? Maybe. Mine works by vertically sliding the hand down with an open palm, with the relevant finger on the sensor - like yours it has a horizontal line that forms the scanner. This is hard to do for thumbs as the rest of the hand ends up at a 90 degree angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, joth said: @pocster is yours a RK door too? Mind sharing U-value and aprx cost? It looks lovely Can’t remember u value without checking . About 7k ? But we have as you finger print scanner , electronic unlock and customised front and back . All glazing triple glazed - that’s a fairly large panel to the right . RK doors are the jam of jams ! The ‘style’ choices were also more expensive than some of the simpler designs . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joth Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Thanks! We've really cut corners with the main door, selecting the same internorm patio style door as we are using for the kitchen side door. Our front door is not visible from the street (on side of house, perpendicular to the road) and will eventually be covered by an external porch, so really seemed a waste of money getting a statement door. But seeing yours gives me serious doubts as this is exact look I originally had in mind! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitpipe Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) My RK door was quite expensive - about £5k and £500 to install, but we had the scanner and fancy 180o hinges as an upgrade so they added about £1k extra. It fills a 1650mm opening and the door itself is about 900mm wide. I did cock up the order though as I intended the door to be wider (1100mm) with less glass on the side but it looks fine. Also the wall construction next to the door somewhat impedes the door opening to about 100% but the concealed hinges look nice anyway It's U value is 0.67W/m2K and it's passive standard, lots of seals etc. Edited March 11, 2020 by Bitpipe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, joth said: Thanks! We've really cut corners with the main door, selecting the same internorm patio style door as we are using for the kitchen side door. Our front door is not visible from the street (on side of house, perpendicular to the road) and will eventually be covered by an external porch, so really seemed a waste of money getting a statement door. But seeing yours gives me serious doubts as this is exact look I originally had in mind! Some things I’m so particular about it’s untrue . I know exactly what ‘image’ I’m trying to create . Tbh - this is all paid for by the savings of me labouring on site everything I can . Save 20k on labour - spend 20k on nice things ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, pocster said: Can’t remember u value without checking . About 7k ? [...] Ditto. Worth every penny. Everyone, but everyone who comes to the house comments on our doorway. The BCO really loved it too. A generous door seems to help set the tone of a house somehow.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, AnonymousBosch said: Ditto. Worth every penny. Everyone, but everyone who comes to the house comments on our doorway. The BCO really loved it too. A generous door seems to help set the tone of a house somehow.... It’s the house’s “face” . You make a judgement about the people inside based on the front door . Boy ! visitors to my front door are in for a surprise when they meet me ???? Edited March 11, 2020 by pocster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Of course - none of you can see the blue LEDs that light up along the length of the handle ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I had 8 RK Doors fitted in a development. £3,600 each including fitting. They had motorised locks and were a special design to match the planning drawings. Quite expensive but they seem decent quality. There is no snib, so if the door shuts behind you and you don't have a key, you are stuffed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, pocster said: About 7k ? That sounds good. Our Internorm front door was £5500 and that was nine years ago without any fancy gubbins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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