ProDave Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Cpd said: I will do some research but if anyone had a “go to” place online to buy 221 please do share ! many thanks. https://www.screwfix.com/search?search=wago+221 https://www.toolstation.com/search?q=wago 221 https://cpc.farnell.com/search?st=wago 221 http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk/search.php?xSearch=wago+221&x=0&y=0 https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/tcl/search?query=wago+221&Submit=Search I think everyone does them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I've always bought 221s from CEF, fair bit cheaper than Screwfix and usually in stock. Not as user friendly as 222s IMHO, it's easy to break fingernails opening the 221s. Nice and compact, though, not really much bigger than the push fit Wagos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 got a kit of chinesium clone 221s and they're very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, dpmiller said: got a kit of chinesium clone 221s and they're very good. Check out the test of real WAGOs vs the counterfeit ones on YouTube! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewpot Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Never heard of Wagos before - real or fake. I've just been watching Big Clive[1] take one apart, and he seems to like them. Can you put more than one wire into each slot, as you can with a choc-block? [1]A man whose opinions seem trustworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, Stewpot said: Can you put more than one wire into each slot, as you can with a choc-block? Yes if it’s stranded wire twisted together but they do the lever ones in 2 3 4 5 so very little point in scrimping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markblox Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, Stewpot said: Never heard of Wagos before - real or fake. I've just been watching Big Clive[1] take one apart, and he seems to like them. Can you put more than one wire into each slot, as you can with a choc-block? [1]A man whose opinions seem trustworthy. No, but you get different sizes so you don't need to. Great to use in a wiring centre and you also have Wago boxes of different sizes including very small ones to use with downlights. Save a lot of time and pretty foolproof, just strip back 15mm of insulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Onoff said: Check out the test of real WAGOs vs the counterfeit ones on YouTube! yes, I've seen'em. More of an issue with 222s I thought. Can't see me needing them for anything other than lighting circuits tho so I'll happily risk an amp passing through. /now the ones that come with cheapo lights, that look like chokblocks with release buttons on? Purest kelp. Wire isn't caged within the terminal so you're reliant on the plastic to keep the pring pressure up. Naff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Re Steps. I had a pair open up on me. Hit the deck with my left are underneath them, right foot twisted between two bottom rungs. Trapped like a goodun. Broken arm and several broken ribs. 18 years on there is still a painful spot on my left arm. The plumbers on the site were impressed that I turned up the next day and carried on working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: Re Steps I liked the dark haired one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Onoff said: 6 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: Re Steps I liked the dark haired one. I still wonder if Baby Spice tastes of prawn cocktail crisps. Not sure if that is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, SteamyTea said: I still wonder if Baby Spice tastes of prawn cocktail crisps. Not sure if that is a good thing. Sounds better than "tastes like a burnt switch" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 32 minutes ago, Onoff said: tastes like a burnt switch Was in a Kent cafe where they had never heard of a ham and cheese toasty. "Looking in the wrong place" I quipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, SteamyTea said: Was in a Kent cafe where they had never heard of a ham and cheese toasty. "Looking in the wrong place" I quipped. Weird, pretty common in this part of Kent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Onoff said: Sounds better than "tastes like a burnt switch" ? I'll bet a burnt switch tastes nothing like it smells,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpd Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 18 hours ago, Jeremy Harris said: I've always bought 221s from CEF, fair bit cheaper than Screwfix and usually in stock. just had a look and very reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Main advantage for me is that CEF is about 2 miles closer to me than Screwfix, plus they rarely have a queue at the counter, plus pretty much everything they stock is pretty good quality. My experience with Screwfix recently has been that they tend to be a bit expensive now, plus the quality of some of their stuff can be a bit suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Jeremy Harris said: Main advantage for me is that CEF is about 2 miles closer to me than Screwfix, plus they rarely have a queue at the counter, plus pretty much everything they stock is pretty good quality. My experience with Screwfix recently has been that they tend to be a bit expensive now, plus the quality of some of their stuff can be a bit suspect. Yes, I bought some 20mm galvanised couplers from CEF. Much thicker steel that the ones from Screwfix. Much more expensive though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 7 hours ago, SteamyTea said: I still wonder if Baby Spice tastes of prawn cocktail crisps. Not sure if that is a good thing. Been thinking about this all day: Scary - Chilli chocolate Posh - Prosecco (possibly Lambrini as she's from Essex). Ginger - Irn-Bru Sporty - Lucozade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Onoff said: she's from Essex We all love an Essex Girl, frequently. (though I thought she was from Hertfordshire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob99 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) On 11/01/2020 at 19:12, MJNewton said: There are smaller lever Wagos available too - the 221 series: Same rating as the 222's, and I prefer the transparent case for reassurance of correct insertion. Incidentally, re the push connectors they are releasable/reusable - you just twist the wire whilst pulling. I've used hundreds of the 221's in my house, especially on my RGBW ceiling downlights which have 5 connections. Disconnecting and dropping the lights out to decorate was just a doddle. I rarely use choc blocks anymore. My electrician swears by them too. I've also used a couple of these wiring centre's which have the 221's clipped into them, very user friendly. Edited January 16, 2020 by Rob99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Wago's.....Oooooh for some reason I find a huge desire to collect them and keep them neatly stored in compartments. They have the same allure as stationary. I think I better stop typing. ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I've mislaid loads of stuff after our house move, and the one thing I keep finding when looking for something else is yet another box of wagos. I have no idea how I have come to have so many part used boxes of the things around, but the bugger is that they are all ones that I never use very much (like 224s and 773s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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