Manifold of manifolds

[Pocster]

Ok !

So to supply domestic hot and cold intend to bolt these together . I do love them ; brass and isolation valve - don’t like the price though !

Anyway - how do you mount this mega manifold of manifolds to a wall ? They have no fixing holes .

I know Wavin do a mounting bracket for ufh manifolds - but not this ....

[bassanclan]

Row of pipe clips on the pipes coming in/out

 

[Pocster]

1 minute ago, bassanclan said:

Row of pipe clips on the pipes coming in/out

 

Yeah I thought of that .

But these things are quite heavy . I didn’t fancy say 5 joined together ‘sagging’ the pipes . Just seemed strange there are no lugs with holes for screw fixings .

[Pocster]

Guess I could find some metal clips or similar; just seems strange not to provide an obvious method ...

[joe90]

Short length of 22mm copper either end and stout pipe clips https://www.screwfix.com/p/brass-munsen-ring-22mm-5-pack/3444j and https://www.screwfix.com/p/male-munsen-ring-backplate-m10-10-pack/6952j ?

[Pocster]

7 minutes ago, joe90 said:

Short length of 22mm copper either end and stout pipe clips https://www.screwfix.com/p/brass-munsen-ring-22mm-5-pack/3444j and https://www.screwfix.com/p/male-munsen-ring-backplate-m10-10-pack/6952j ?

Do I really want copper though ? . Just wanted Hep2o straight in .

[Pocster]

Actually .....

 

If I build my manifold of manifolds and mount it vertically with water in at the top and end cap at the bottom ....

I can build a shelf for it to sit on - still need some clips/straps to hold it in place . Then each pipe can just run horizontally off it through a concrete wall .

[Adam2]

Why not just use 2 shelf brackets and cable tie (or stronger) the manifold on top:

[Pocster]

3 minutes ago, Adam2 said:

Why not just use 2 shelf brackets and cable tie (or stronger) the manifold on top:

Yeah ; something as simple as that might work !

But i’m Going vertical now !

Edited October 8, 2019 by pocster

[joe90]

Mine are vertical. Notice that hep20 do 15mm and 10mm manifolds Which fit together. The 22mm copper going vertical connects to the DHW cylinder.

Edited October 8, 2019 by joe90

[Russell griffiths]

here ya go. 

Picture stolen from nick the welsh wizard. 

[Barney12]

5 hours ago, pocster said:

Yeah I thought of that .

But these things are quite heavy . I didn’t fancy say 5 joined together ‘sagging’ the pipes . Just seemed strange there are no lugs with holes for screw fixings .

 

As long as the 15mm/10mm pipes coming out of the manifolds are also clipped it will be fine. I’ll try and find a photo of mine. 

[Barney12]

Here we go, more of @Nickfromwales welsh wizardry 

 

[Pocster]

29 minutes ago, Barney12 said:

Here we go, more of @Nickfromwales welsh wizardry 

 

Neat !

So I could just use a bit of copper at either end with @joe90 suggested clips just to hold the entire thing ?!

So which ‘copper end bits’ do I need ??

Edited October 8, 2019 by pocster

[joe90]

With mine the 22mm copper pipe will suffice, but I think even 22mm plastic would be stiff enough if the clips are close to the manifold.

[Barney12]

21 minutes ago, pocster said:

Neat !

So I could just use a bit of copper at either end with @joe90 suggested clips just to hold the entire thing ?!

So which ‘copper end bits’ do I need ??

 

All my copper (inc the ends into the manifolds) are on munsen rings. I.e. 

 

https://www.screwfix.com/p/brass-munsen-ring-22mm-5-pack/3444J?tc=DB1&ds_kid=92700020952479607&gclsrc=aw.ds&ds_rl=1241687&ds_rl=1245250&ds_rl=1249404&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoPPfvcuN5QIVBrDtCh22cQBwEAQYDyABEgKljvD_BwE

 

definitely the strongest of all fixings and they enable full lagging.

[Nickfromwales]

2 hours ago, Barney12 said:

definitely the strongest of all fixings

Strong, like bull.....

 

2 hours ago, Barney12 said:

and they enable full lagging

If only the beer hadn't run out, we'd have stayed and lagged it all. Tight-arse.

[Onoff]

8 hours ago, Barney12 said:

Here we go, more of @Nickfromwales welsh wizardry 

 

 

If ever you want to paint that wall behind all the fittings then buy a cheap roll of tin foil. Great for masking difficult to mask things like pipes, holds it's form and is easy to remove.

 

I'm thinking maybe a matt black canvas to show everything off and polish the copper.....

 

?

Edited October 9, 2019 by Onoff

[Barney12]

9 hours ago, Nickfromwales said:

Strong, like bull.....

 

If only the beer hadn't run out, we'd have stayed and lagged it all. Tight-arse.

 

Christ on a bike, its a 50 minute round trip to the nearest supermarket and you drank the place dry in less than 30   

[Onoff]

35 minutes ago, Barney12 said:

 

 less than 30   

 

Seconds?

[Oz07]

@joe90 Why not bother with isolating valves?

 

@Nickfromwales 

With these plastic manifolds which are the best isolating valves to use for longevity? Speed fit ones? Normal compression ones? Full bore ones? (on mains pressure system)

[joe90]

1 hour ago, Oz07 said:

 Why not bother with isolating valves?

 

With a ball valve (full bore) just before the manifold it’s no bother to turn this off if I need to fix anything.

[AdamSee]

I used the abacus manifolds for the bathroom. There were quite expensive for what they were and you can buy a bracket that hold them flush to a wall. But i just used a steel banding that you screw through. I particular like how each knob has colour face plates and a pre set list of appliances that there connected to (Sink, Toilet, Shower, etc). Its great because when I hand write a description, it looks like a child did it. 

 

Annoyingly they need a huge amount of ptfe tape to not drip and the feed in. Hoping the hard water in the area eventually clogs the tiny dip coming off of it. 

[joe90]

5 minutes ago, AdamSee said:

Its great because when I hand write a description, it looks like a child did it. 

 

And me, which is why I bought one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DYMO-LT-100H-LETRATAG-HANDHELD-LABEL-MAKER-PRINTER-MONOCHROME-BRAND-NEW/181402127590?epid=78068478&hash=item2a3c68cce6:g:OLcAAOSwqu9VQ0RD sticks to pipes cables etc etc.

[AdamSee]

2 minutes ago, joe90 said:

 

And me, which is why I bought one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DYMO-LT-100H-LETRATAG-HANDHELD-LABEL-MAKER-PRINTER-MONOCHROME-BRAND-NEW/181402127590?epid=78068478&hash=item2a3c68cce6:g:OLcAAOSwqu9VQ0RD sticks to pipes cables etc etc.

 

Sounds like a plan, I usually just wait until my wife is available and then give her the sharpie.