Pocster Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Onoff said: The 8cm one does: But this is the 12cm one with the odour extract (could be wrong): Erm ! Ok ! So odour extract connects to mvhr ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 This is.why I love this forum ! . Didn’t even know that was possible . As I’m installing the mvhr as we speak much appreciated ! . My issue is at 120cm i’m Over the ufh so can’t bolt the timber frame to the floor - as I mentioned photos to follow to show !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 minute ago, pocster said: This is.why I love this forum ! . Didn’t even know that was possible . As I’m installing the mvhr as we speak much appreciated ! . My issue is at 120cm i’m Over the ufh so can’t bolt the timber frame to the floor - as I mentioned photos to follow to show !! Length of 2" deep timber, (same width as vertical battens) glued to the floor maybe, pushing against existing stud wall. Geberit frame feet screwed into that? @Nickfromwales.....help! Pretty sure some on here have used the odour extract facility... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 You don’t need to bolt the frame to the floor. Glue the sole plate down, then use angle brackets to hold the frame back against the wall. I’ve got a full set of Geberit wall hold back bolts and fixings somewhere as I build between the studs. The weight on the bottom holds it down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 A bit here: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, PeterW said: You don’t need to bolt the frame to the floor. Glue the sole plate down, then use angle brackets to hold the frame back against the wall. I’ve got a full set of Geberit wall hold back bolts and fixings somewhere as I build between the studs. The weight on the bottom holds it down Superb ! . I’ll stick some photos up anyway just so you can all see ! . But yes ; might aswell go to 120cm and have odour extraction . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Btw, I'm pretty certain now my diy extract system, following Jeremy's lead is working. Doesn't maybe clear the sometimes explosive, initial "release of gas" but all good thereafter. The planned inline pc fan should provide an extra boost (poost? ? ). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Onoff said: Btw, I'm pretty certain now my diy extract system, following Jeremy's lead is working. Doesn't maybe clear the sometimes explosive, initial "release of gas" but all good thereafter. The planned inline pc fan should provide an extra boost (poost? ? ). @Onoff you are behind the times and should retro fit mvhr . Get with it dude - misses will understand (not) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 So ! If I go for an extract odour cistern should the mvhr ‘boost ‘ on a toilet flush ?? I.e some way to automate that ? . Or just mvhr in normal circulation mode ok ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 My stud walls were built first and attach in essence only to the ceiling and walls. Floor was poured after the stud walls were done. When I was playing with how the frame was going to go in I sat it on the floating sole plate of the stud wall. I then though notched out the sole plate and screwed to the concrete floor. I didn't have UFH close to the edge though: I was lucky depth wise as where my frame went was an old doorway I blocked up (with 9" blocks). The depth is so great I resin anchored studs into the back wall and used hex extenders: Just found this old pic looking through where the new bathroom door is through where the old doorway was into the cloak in the hall: Glad to say its changed a bit! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 And another thread with loads of info: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 This general thread about fitting the wc that you might glean some bits from: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 And another: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 I'm wondering out loud here as to whether it would be easier for you to introduce a diy take off and stick with the 8cm frame..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Veering off thread a bit but can anyone remember the make of wall frame that is a near clone of the Geberit kit? It has been discussed on here before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Meinst du Grohe ? Hier, Junge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, AnonymousBosch said: Meinst du Grohe ? Hier, Junge. No, I remembered after I posted it's Abacus (I think). Look very similar down to the Geberit blue of the frame. So much so I think Geberit tried to go legal on them. The flush mechanisms look near interchangeable. Half recall the quality isn't so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 Ah I’m ok . Cleverly / luckily I left enough space . So once I’ve knocked out the floor block I can build my timber frame up with no fear of touch ufh ; which is in the screed to the right . ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 If it is yellow, let it mellow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Just now, SteamyTea said: If it is yellow, let it mellow. That's that gold bog that's been nicked isn't it? Apparently the police have nothing to go on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Hard to imagine Winston Churchill thrutching on on, but easy to visulise Trump, trumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 These WERE a steal if you have the depth. Same as mine. I bought one so have 3 the same now, a mate got one and possibly some on here too. Sold out now: https://www.pcsclearance.co.uk/save-170-geberit-duofix-wc-frame-with-up200-concealed-cistern---model-111292001-562-p.asp They do do the Omega frame though. It's quite tall mind and no odour take off: https://www.pcsclearance.co.uk/geberit---duofix-1120mm-wall-hung-wc-toilet-frame-with-120mm-omega-cistern-644-p.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 Right bpc who have been so good - think linking the pan extraction to the mvhr is plain wrong . One as stated the seal needs to be broken to allow this and also the volume of extraction at the pan will be limited . Am I correct extraction only occurs on flushing therefore isn’t permanent? - of course they want it permanent. I think they were concerned about combining 2 different things together . So on their advice I think i’ll Leave it as is .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 No seals are impacted at all by doing this. The idea is simply to ventilate the air space in the pan, and this is always directly connected to the flush pipe, and also to the air space above the water in the cistern. I suggest the BPC people need to go and take a look at how a toilet works... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, pocster said: Right bpc who have been so good - think linking the pan extraction to the mvhr is plain wrong . One as stated the seal needs to be broken to allow this and also the volume of extraction at the pan will be limited . Am I correct extraction only occurs on flushing therefore isn’t permanent? - of course they want it permanent. I think they were concerned about combining 2 different things together . So on their advice I think i’ll Leave it as is .... Extraction is constant if connected to your MVHR. Even with mine (no MVHR), pan extraction starts as soon as the main extract fan starts, then carries on whilst you're "sitting", flushing and for 15 mins from the moment you start the fan. It's constant if the room humidity is above 65%. Get your bco to come sniff mine, with and without the pan fan going! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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