Joe Rosato Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) Hi all !! Iv just passed my level 2 in brickwork and and have been working on a construction project involving 6 inch concrete blocks used for the internal walls !! My question is do the internals need to be built as good as face walls.? Are the tolerances the same.? And any tips on tbe handling and laying of these blocks as there so ruddy heavy. ?? Cheers in advance !! Edited June 21, 2019 by Joe Rosato Didnt say hi
epsilonGreedy Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, Joe Rosato said: Iv just passed my level 2 in brickwork How many weeks of tuition did you receive to get to level-2? 24 minutes ago, Joe Rosato said: My question is do the internals need to be built as good as face walls.? Are the tolerances the same.? I read through a masonry wall tolerances document because I am building a brick and block house. Most of the stated tolerances relate to creating a straight, true and structurally sound finished wall and I would not want internal walls that did not meet those criteria. Imagine fitting a prebuilt stairs to an internal wall with a 20mm bow over 4 meters. 29 minutes ago, Joe Rosato said: And any tips on tbe handling and laying of these blocks as there so ruddy heavy. ?? Rubber brickie gloves enhance the grip power of your fingers. The mortar needs to be stiffer than normal otherwise the blocks collapse through a 10mm mortar bed after a few leveling taps. How heavy are these blocks? I ask because I thought health & safety standards have imposed a 20kg weight limit per block.
Mr Punter Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 If the blockwork is the final finish it will need to be as good as facework. Is this a commercial building?
Joe Rosato Posted June 21, 2019 Author Posted June 21, 2019 The blocks will be plasterboarded over its a granny annexe and four car garage.!!
PeterW Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 Full beds flush pointed and the tolerance needs to be 10mm/5m
Declan52 Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 You only use 6 X 9 inch block for pig houses. Can you not use soapbars instead like these https://stowellconcrete.co.uk/concrete-soap-bar-blocks/ All the walls you build should be plumb no matter where they are. Your only make more work for every one else who follows you and then you will get a bad name for untidy work. Your arms will get used to the lifting and your skin will soon toughen up. The motar should be the same as an ordinary block. Nice and creamy so you can tap the block down but not soft enough that it sinks. 1
Joe Rosato Posted June 21, 2019 Author Posted June 21, 2019 I did a year at college to pass level 2 as i had a bit of previous experience ,!! The walls are plumb and level but 8f the odd one is a fraction high or low is it such a big problem for the plasterer.? Im literarlly talking mms within tolerance
CC45 Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 7 hours ago, PeterW said: tolerance needs to be 10mm/5m I wish the cheeky monkey that erected our frame has achieved this.
Big Jimbo Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, CC45 said: I wish the cheeky monkey that erected our frame has achieved this. Well he should have. Makes all the following trades so much easier.
CC45 Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 yes he should. next time I am going to assume everyone is less than accurate until they prove otherwise.
Simplysimon Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Joe Rosato said: I did a year at college to pass level 2 as i had a bit of previous experience ,!! The walls are plumb and level but 8f the odd one is a fraction high or low is it such a big problem for the plasterer.? Im literarlly talking mms within tolerance so not an apprenticeship then? they are now between 2-4yrs. surely the lecturers would have been giving you the tolerances required which will be far tighter than on site just looked online and surprised at the tolerance for level 2. https://www.cityandguilds.com/-/media/productdocuments/construction/trades/6705/6705_level_2/assessment_materials/6705-23_practical_task_manual-pdf.ashx
Brickie Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 17 hours ago, Joe Rosato said: the odd one is a fraction high or low is it such a big problem for the plasterer.? Im literarlly talking mms within tolerance Are you talking up & down on the line? If it ranges through plumb within tolerance then that’s all the plasterer needs.
Joe Rosato Posted June 22, 2019 Author Posted June 22, 2019 Yes on the line !! Its plumb and within tolerance !!
Brickie Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 Then sit back & relax with a spritz & some stuffed peppers. You do know that’s how us brickies spend our Saturday nights,right? 1
Nickfromwales Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Brickie said: Then sit back & relax with a spritz & some stuffed peppers. You do know that’s how us brickies spend our Saturday nights,right? And there was me thinking it was causing bar fights, moaning about scaffolders and scratching your over-exposed hairy asres. I've got it so wrong...... 1 1
Barney12 Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Nickfromwales said: And there was me thinking it was causing bar fights, moaning about scaffolders and scratching your over-exposed hairy asres. I've got it so wrong...... You are getting mixed up with plumbers. ? 1 1
Mr Punter Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 17 hours ago, Brickie said: Then sit back & relax with a spritz & some stuffed peppers. You do know that’s how us brickies spend our Saturday nights,right? In the 80s it was not unusual for itinerant skilled workers to get paid on Friday, go into town Saturday and buy a new suit, get pissed up, have a fight in a nightclub and wear the same suit to the building site on the Monday. 1 1
SteamyTea Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Punter said: to the building site on the Monday Except they were in the Monday Club. The Monday Club was for the builders that got so drunk on the weekend they were not capable of turning up on Mondays. So they met in the pub Monday lunchtime. Or maybe that was just High Wycombe builders.
Barney12 Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr Punter said: In the 80s it was not unusual for itinerant skilled workers to get paid on Friday, go into town Saturday and buy a new suit, get pissed up, have a fight in a nightclub and wear the same suit to the building site on the Monday. I had a good mate who was a chippy that had a slight variation on that theme: got paid on Friday, went to Woolworths (this was the late 80's, early 90's) and bought a new duvet set, then to Top Man for new pants. Went home to his pokey little flat and changed bedding and wore new pants. Went into to town hoping to score a lady in the full knowledge that he could take her home to a clean bed and tidy under crackers. Poor chap never scored once! ? Edited June 23, 2019 by Barney12 typo
Nickfromwales Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, Barney12 said: I had a good mate who was a chippy that had a slight variation on that theme: got paid on Friday, went to Woolworths (this was the late 80's, early 90's) and bought a new duvet set, then to Top Man for new pants. Went home to his pokey little flat and changed bedding and wore new pants. Went into to town hoping to score a lady in the full knowledge that he could take her home to a clean bed and tidy under crackers. Poor chap never scored once! ? But what a collection of pants he must have.....
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