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Looking at a technical manual today, HiSense monobloc, and split system. It gives all the parameters to help size the heat pump and for the first time I have seen a manufacturer take due diligence for defrost. Giving derate required for various outside temps
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Floor slab insulation. Test my logic please?
JohnMo replied to saveasteading's topic in Barn Conversions
Stop faffing, get PIR, spend once, save for ever more. Once in you cannot upgrade. I shopped around, bought online saved a small fortune, it came on lorry direct from factory - I had a full lorry load of 100mm thick, so 2 layers. -
2x air source heat pumps - Scotland
JohnMo replied to BintyAndTheBeast's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
Well you don't need two heat pumps, anyone that says you do, well!!! I have house heating connected to a summer house, it has a very different heating characteristics to house. So I would just install a through wall Aircon unit in the out building - these are not subject to planning or permitted development as there is nothing visible (no box outside). Then do one ASHP, to drive UFH, via an electronic mixer (driven by ASHP controller) and a second zone running fan coils. Get a heat pump that does cooling out the box (Vaillant don't), then have UFH - in cooling mode for summer and fan cols in upstairs. All done under permitted development and all allowed under the grant scheme. -
2x air source heat pumps - Scotland
JohnMo replied to BintyAndTheBeast's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
Is that whole house? -
Why make life difficult for yourself. Just do normal, why reinvent the wheel? Future proof is normal stuff, not novel. Leave DC to cars and and small boats.
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I've started to do something similar. Found down to about 5 degs normal WC is just fine. But once I get into defrost mode, battery takes a bit of a pounding, especially with a couple of days sub-zero. So set the WC curve to stop at 5 degs, my old UFH controller has an outside temperature reference. So use it as a cheap rate boost controller, so when its 5 degs and below outside and below 20.5 inside, it activates a second set point for the ASHP and allows a higher boost flow temp, for cosy cheap slots. Rest of the time the ASHP ticks away at a low flow temp. Use the same amount of energy, get similar CoP, but moves the majority of the energy usage to the cheaper time slots.
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2x air source heat pumps - Scotland
JohnMo replied to BintyAndTheBeast's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
I would temp back and really ask yourself why you need 2x heat pumps. Blown air in bathrooms will not be the most comfortable way to heat, especially if you are wet. Have you done a full heat loss survey? -
Think the trouble with a lot of these questions and issues, they are raised after the event, when it's basically too late. People expect wonders to occurs without pre planning and deep discussion on expected outcomes. Thermal bridging isn't great, but we have a work force of poorly trained labourers, not skilled crafts people. Only things open to you without taking everything out and starting again, fill all gaps with expanding foam, seal the outside with mastic to form a waterproof seal. But looking at the thermal images, I would comment Door cill area doesn't look that bad, worst bridge appears to be at the side lights, most likely caused by air movement. Your doors most likely need adjustments as you appear to have drafts at the door seals. So as mentioned fill any remaining gaps with expanding foam, seal with mastic and move on with your life.
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Newark ministore DHW cylinder (Shell and Tube Heat Exchanger)
JohnMo replied to Tide2's topic in Boilers & Hot Water Tanks
The HE mini store, is a part of the central heating system, in it can be included in the already in place expansion vessel (recheck sized based on increased system capacity) and relief valve etc. Assume ministore has an immersion, it could be heated by that, but will not take much energy depending on the volume. To get the most out of it, you need to set your boiler up to do priority domestic hot water. Which isn't as straightforward with a combi, but can be done. Then you can blast the ministore with high temp (80 Deg) water to ensure you actually have endless DHW in winter and top as needed in summer. Your immersion will hold the temperature while idle, but on hot water draw, will not keep up especially if running on excess PV via a diverter. So get your tin hat ready "the blo@dy hot water cold again" moments with the other half. -
That's mixers, they mix, they mix all the time like it or not, always a fixed amount of mixing. They are really designed to operate with high flow temps from boilers, generally not suited to ASHP systems. If you need to mix because of different flow temp needs for two different manifolds it's better to use an electronic mixer driven by the heat pump controller. I had the same issues, deleted the mixers and additional pumps, the actuators on the manifold and just left room sensors in place for monitoring.
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So you really need something that does remote access as an add-on, instead of out the box. Then everything is local, with the ability to look at stuff and adjust settings. I have a polypipe system with room sensor main hub and and external WiFi access point. Everything is local, WiFi link of it works or doesn't has no effect on the work of the system. Heatmiser and Wiser I believe are the same. You need an add-on for remote access. Anything that mentions clouds walk away
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Newark ministore DHW cylinder (Shell and Tube Heat Exchanger)
JohnMo replied to Tide2's topic in Boilers & Hot Water Tanks
If you have the space put a proper UVC in. The mini store is unlikely to perform much better than your combi except immediate draw of would be quicker. -
Newark ministore DHW cylinder (Shell and Tube Heat Exchanger)
JohnMo replied to Tide2's topic in Boilers & Hot Water Tanks
£1400 isn't modest in my book. Plus if used the way you are suggesting you would need a full safety group. You may have a few things to resolve. If water flows through the combi it will fire up, so use gas anyway. If heat store isn't heated, sun not playing ball, it would just cool the water already heated by gas boiler. So no hot water! I would install cylinder upstream of the combi, heat by solar, if water is above 45 divert around boiler direct to tap, if below 45 let it be heated by boiler. Saves boiling firing when not needed etc. -
Really depends how it's setup. Would think every parameter you mentioned can be adjusted. But neither way mentioned sounds an efficient way to run a heat pump.
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Or a dry trap? One or the other sounds contradiction, or your client has money to waste🤔
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Fitting heavy triple glazed windows safely on new buildings
JohnMo replied to Simmon's topic in Windows & Glazing
Where is your structural design? Should be zero need for such questions, if your building is designed. -
Buffer tank and secondary pumps. Do I need them?
JohnMo replied to jimseng's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
So is your heat pump oversized to allow this? -
Definitely found that with mine, certainly once you get cycle times below about 10 mins, you may as well give up.
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Worcester Bosch Greenstar 8000 System Boiler Issues
JohnMo replied to EinTopaz's topic in Boilers & Hot Water Tanks
So that is just the restart hysterisis. Doesn't the lower pump speed, just drive a lower output of the radiators, and then drive shorter boiler cycles, as there is less to take the boiler heat away? -
Worcester Bosch Greenstar 8000 System Boiler Issues
JohnMo replied to EinTopaz's topic in Boilers & Hot Water Tanks
If settings don't give the behaviour you expect set them back to default. What thermostat are you using? Is it an on off one or opentherm? -
Read an article the other day saying electric prices in the UK are set to drop like a stone. As our price is directly linked to gas wholesale prices, which due to the glut of LNG on the world market is falling, and due to fall even further. Several countries are reducing their uptake of LNG due to more renewables coming stream and less reliance on imported gas.
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Buffer tank and secondary pumps. Do I need them?
JohnMo replied to jimseng's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
How do you do your schedule? -
Buffer tank and secondary pumps. Do I need them?
JohnMo replied to jimseng's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
Unless you couple that with a battery. Then low and slow wins. -
Buffer tank and secondary pumps. Do I need them?
JohnMo replied to jimseng's topic in Air Source Heat Pumps (ASHP)
That's a strange lunch your cooking up.
