Pocster

Hey ! Let me know how you get on with them . It wasn’t care for my plaster so much but if I’ve got 30 recessed lights in a room I don’t want him moaning or the quality of skimming round each light is poor . Reluctant to skim/paint then drill my light holes - prefer to get it wrong earlier in the mission !

Anyone installed anything like this ? https://www.nationallighting.co.uk/indoor-lighting/downlights/trimless-downlights/horizon-dimmable-gu10-trimless-round-downlight?vat=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-92bubfL5QIVA7DtCh3argo4EAQYByABEgIE0_D_BwE I like the idea as the hole in created first not after ceiling skimmed and painted . Are plasters happy with this or do they curse at skimming around a hole ??

Hep2o saves the day ! ???

Yes . I have 3 in a jar ( 1 spare for those unforeseen circumstances) ?

What does deja Vu mean ?

You can borrow mine anytime ?

So ! I replaced mdpe with Hep2o. So as Hep2o is a lot more forgiving on bends I now have just 2 tee’s where it crosses the ceiling . These joints will always be exposed so can always get to them . Hep2o much easier to work with; only issues I experienced. Once the pipe inserts are in they are in unlike mdpe ones you can remove . Not an issue though . Hep2o 22mm more difficult to dismount - but then the key isn’t like the 15mm or perhaps it’s just me . Hep2o fittings that go Hep2o to plastic thread ( say for a tap ) leak no matter how much plumbers tape and washers I use ( hence why tap is upside down to reduce leak ! ) . Will change this to a brass wall plate I think . Tested manifolds off the main tap - leak free now .

Yeah ; a small price to pay ..... ?

What I did as I knew the build would take a long time I.e years . Is buy somewhere . Then no rent . Also ‘n’ years later property has appreciated ( buy what will appreciate not what you want ! ) and you’ll get your deposit back + uplift !! . All to spend on your build !! ???

Oh I’ve done the same . Spreadsheet and every receipt in a folder - all numbered . Just didn’t want the tax man questioning when of course I’ll have no memory of why it doesn’t show vat .

I was just worried that a receipt I remember today I’m not going to remember in n years time !

And that was allowed ok ?

Hey ! i have a vat invoice that doesn’t show vat . Just total cost of goods . Company is vat registered . i queried this and they said if it’s below £250 they don’t have to legally show the vat . When I claim at the end of the build there are 2 forms ; one for receipts showing vat ; the other not . This correct ? . I’ll still get the vat back on this ? - I’m assuming it’s a receipt ( like from a store ) which doesn’t show vat . cheers

Yep - it’s true ! I sold sand to a man in a desert . I sold water to a man in a boat I sold hamburgers to a man in Mac Donald’s I sold brexit to the public What was sold to me ? . Some incorrectly sized fecking wall on glass . ?

Way you are going that might come true

Nah that blue glass leaks

I’m sure @Onoff can fix it

Do you need any walk on glazing ? I think you do ...

There was no groan emoji......

Yeah I was guessing the wall thickness tbh . I’ll get the 600 and see how far I get ?

erm ; that requires tools and stuff ? Screwy do a 600mm one - probably still too short .

Yeah the copper rod won’t be long enough . This wall is Thermalite cavity 100mm pir 150mm timber frame pir 100mm So it’s a thick wall - so Hep2o connector will have to be on the wall .

Ok ! I think I just want a garden tap with a back plate and pipe like https://www.screwfix.com/p/hose-union-back-plate-15mm/56415 then presumably some hep20 to copper connection ? The hole through the wall would have to be quite large as once Hep2o to copper connector is on I’ve got to push the whole lot back into the wall . This the correct approach??

I’ve probably got the wrong parts here . I assumed the Hep2o pipe would come through the wall the taps mounted on . This currently isn’t any good is it? ,as Hep2o pipe will be exposed externally .

Use it all the time but not as a rule