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Thanks as always! Bit tricky to run towel rail pipes on their own back to the EVENTUAL manifold position as the slab is laid but then I could conceivably run it from a "rad" under the window then within the dwarf wall alongside the bath and out the door. Let's face it I've already got the two UFH pipes lying on the floor doing nothing in the stairs room until I dig that up. Back on eBuild you suggested and I bought a TMV and pump combined with the intent of connecting that into the single pipe system "for now" as in my for now..... I bought the one you found on eBay so have that already. Or connect to upstairs where there is a flow and return pipe set up albeit a messy one. Oil - no buffer yet.

I'm tempted for speed to REINSTATE the single pipe CH pipe as shown in the picture in the first post. Maybe plumb it in such a way I can adapt to proper flow /return later. Here's a weird thing, the ORIGINAL downstairs rads on the single pipe system: The way the pump is set up the feed comes in at the top of the rad (door end in the photo) via a swept tee at the bottom: ...and exits at the bottom via another swept tee. Seems the wrong way round to me, hot rising and all that. I wonder if the pump has been reversed maybe? Edit: Reckon I'm into something according to this: http://build-x.info/heating/12033

That looks fantastic! Must be great to look up at it with what is I'm sure a great deal of pride and satisfaction. I'd love my roof to look like that. So, Electrician, Roofer, Digger Driver, Lanscape Gardener...............you JUST need to learn how to RENDER!

Kids (& wife) have to get over the novelty factor of 1) having a bath after so long and 2) the fact it's got jets and lights! That might give it a bashing to start with. Wondering if I should have a "dry run" and try and remove the pump to see how easy it will be if required later through the space available. Wonder if those in/out couplers just screw on with a rubber seal?

If I go for these I'll seemingly have to open up the currently 38mm holes in the tub to the 42mm the adapters require. Some careful Starrett work required there then! No plan to have a shower attachment in the bath which tbh I think is maybe a mistake. Saying that it'll be easy to fit one if required later. Just then access to the pump motor to consider. The second picture on this thread shows the access to the motor. In theory it's "just" a case of undoing the two pipe couplings and loosening the M10 support stud. Not easy though maybr doable.

By chance found this, I feel it would maybe SOLVE my problem of future access to replace at least the taps and allow me to put them wall side. Would mean using the standard mixer tap. Waste would be another issue if that craps out. It'd also mean the pump motor would be back being a bit inaccessible maybe: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bath-Mixer-Tap-Easy-Fix-Fast-Fit-Kit-Quick-Release-Fittings-Fixings-Chrome-Brass-/222134448329?hash=item33b83eb0c9:g:BvkAAOSw6btXRxWX

Another thing with fast fix boxes is the quality of the cutting out of the board. Worth trying to keep intact the paper on the back of the board as it holds it all together. If you're fitting the box after the board you're likely not going to get a batten in. If you're really anal like some people you can carefully trim out with a multi tool and a fine toothed blade. On the cut edge you can paint on some PVA to help keep it all together. Makes a lovely neat job.....apparently EDIT: Or just buy a pad saw.....

Don't get bullied over the stat position into dropping it to 1200mm by any LBC bod spouting Part M. Just follow the instructions that come with it (which probably says 1500mm as aforementioned above). Try and fix a p'board box that's pulled through the (decorated etc) wall and you'll wish you'd used a metal back box screwed to a carefully positioned batten I know that! Ditto any fitting where you COULD have whacked some battens and a bit of ply beforehand. Hindsight and all that! Measured from top of kitchen worktop to bottom of sockets above, no less than 100mm. Worth getting either the NICEIC or IET electricians guide to the building regs. https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/BKDIGslash3.html http://electrical.theiet.org/books/amendment-no3/egbr-4ed.cfm

How did that work then running it off of the HW system? It'd only get hot when you ran the taps wouldn't it? My HW cylinder is approx 12m from this proposed rad position the other end if the house and on the first floor. I suppose you could have a brass pump?

Had a few near misses of late putting down the multitool / sabre saw / grinder with hot blades near the exposed UFH! The other night I zinged off the points of 12 over length screws that had come through and counted only 10 "hot bits". Panicked as to where the other two had gone! Had visions of a) it melting into the pipes or b) it becoming wedged in the stud work and slowly smouldering!

Just look for the dampest patch wherever.....

Damp meter? Ignore me! Just re-read its upstairs / chipboard.

I was wanting to avoid an electric towel rail tbh based on cost to run.

Apologies those who've lived through this previously on eBuild, might be of interest to "new readers" though. Amazingly time is approaching that I might be getting some plasterboard on! But..... At the mo, other than the UFH (that's yet to be connected) there is no provision for "central heating". Why would I need it you may ask, bear with me! The downstairs CH is an antiquated, 3/4" nom bore, single pipe system. It "hugs" the perimeter of the house walls at floor level and comes up to each rad via swept tees. This is the bathroom early on. You can see the old 3/4" pipe that ran in an L shape up the right hand wall and along under the window. In gutting the room I in effect took this pipe and the rad out and rerouted it around the outside of the room. It was in the way for battening the walls and doing the floor. So, below, this is the room pre the slab going down; bath on the right as you come in, basin far right corner. Then wet room corner far left, cupboard on the left as you come in on the left over the area with no UFH and a wall mount wc on the left wall towards the wet room corner. There is then no practical place for a "rad" other than under the window as original. I keep referring to CH & rad.....this is because the wife HATES towel rails! She doesn't think they get towels dry and thinks they get so hot you burn yourself. She wants a "double radiator" under the window. Is there a rad/cross towel rail of any sort I wonder that might fit the bill? Tbh I quite fancy a cast iron "school radiator" as a feature. (Pretty sure she hates them though). So, irrespective of what "rad" I fit I haven't got any plumbing for it. Personally I think with the UFH the room will be lovely and warm. The rad/towel rail need only be on mornings and at night I'm thinking. I could at a pinch reinstate the perimeter system using 22mm plastic maybe with a provision for turning it into "proper" F&R later. Therein lies another problem, I'd need to have the floors up through the centre of the house to run flow and return pipes. Or....upstairs is a proper flow and return system. I could come off of that..... Thought by jotting this down it might be clearer, it's not! Hoping the collective might assist! Cheers

By the book (the OSG anyway) it's 50mm away from "telecommunication wiring" unless the lv cable (<600v a.c) is in: 1) conduit 2) trunking Either of which if metallic must be EARTHED or 3) if it's run in MICC (Pyro) I think the statement on this is very ambiguous personally. Read the exact wording and imo it clearly says the 50mm can be ignored if the above conditions are met.....so PLASTIC trunking etc is fine. Plastic will certainly add to the insulation between cables but it's odd when the main reason for separation is to prevent the "mains" inducing potentially dangerous voltages in the telecom stuff run parallel to it by induction. This all harks back to old phone line type stuff that wasn't shielded.

Selfie?

Sorry to hijack but if you don't mind Nick I'll post up a pic of the BIG tiler cutter I've been given recently. As yet unused in anger but I'd appreciate your professional opinion. If daiking was nearer he could borrow it.

Nolene!

And a woman with no legs?

A woman standing against a wall?

Bang on.....Of course NICK would have got you the point too! Actually this thread had made me realise how bloody naff white PVC tile trims will look in our bathroom. Can't wait for them to go all yellow and scuffed. Have to work on the wife to go for chrome.

Had to look that one up!

A man who lays porcelain / ceramic wall and floor coverings?

Yep. You sure it's not Keith Vaz for the rabbit thing?

What do you call: 1) A man in a pile of leaves? 2) A man in a swimming pool? 3) A man in an Irish bog?