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And that's the key thing - filtering. Data can be handled and or mishandled. Which is why the peer review process is so crucial. It's an intensely uncomfortable process - which I'm now begining to think should be made more uncomfortable.

Kick the ball. Not the man.

Just a thought, why has it taken (say) 6 full years to 'move' ? Have you looked at the foundations? Might that (as well as poor workmanship higher up) be a contributory factor? I ask, because if my suspicion is right, then sorting the foundation could well be as important as the other issues pointed out above. And if I were a roofer, I'd want to argue that the foundations had moved, not the roof. So its worth a careful look at least.

I wonder, do they publish the fundamental assumptions for that calculation ? Who knows, they might have underestimated the efficiencies. ? Thought I'd better ask before @SteamyTea blows a fuse.......

And I thought we had problems. Its hard not sound trite responding to a post like yours but - to me - not responding to express sympathy would be unkind. At this remove, staying on site looks the best alternative. £100 of crusher run stone, carefully laid and levelled will reduce the mud bath. Then buy a massive off-cut of synthetic grass (Astro Turf), curt to shape and lay it along the most used walking route. When the mud dries, use a blower to get rid of it. Or an industrial vac will do the same. Systematise common houselhold chores : storage, washing - making those easy and quick releases energy for other more difficult tasks. Dogs are mess-balls. But it won't be for long. Washable mats are a great help. My sincere sympathy to you both and especially your husband . Lets hope for a rapid recovery. Kind regards Ian

How I agree! Ignorance is the most compelling reason to avoid Fallacy in presentating a point of view. And when Fallacy becomes endemic, invent Alternative Facts. Easy!

Ok, briefly as I can. Examining any reasoning for Logical Fallacy is important because any Fallacy contained in that reasoning undermines the validity of any arguement, scientific or otherwise.

So it's OK to present fallacious argument ?

@SteamyTea lets agree to disagree. I don't want to annoy you any more than I have done.

No. I am very suprised you wrote that sentence. Shocked at the one above..... And stunned at this one. Suprised because of the assumptions made about 12 to 14 year olds, shocked because of your failure to understand that Learning Style underpins every exchange of information , and stunned because of the logical fallacy embedded in the final statement.

That explanation avoids one key issue: everyone has a slightly different learning style or - better put - set of leaning styles . Thank God. One person's '... shorter, easier to say and more correct ... ' is White Noise to others. As is - to a non-chippy - a bird's mouth , or - to a non-plumber - a half inch iron, or MoT1 to anyone who hasn't had to bother laying a foundation. And as for Thermal Mass...... Science needs to learn to communicate its content better to the general public. Thank God some people realised that some time ago

But it's the most common description isn't it? And wrong. There - in one easy to read post - is a powerful illustration of why many people feel science is too hard and so disengage..

because I can just about get my head round the fridge in reverse explanation of a heat pump.

Our baths are digital too. Put the plug in with fingers and switch taps on and off with the same digital expertese.

I'm very grateful that you didn't ask the same question about an external door and a passivahus

As in: Cold in bed tonight innit ... Put another dog on the bed then.... or in this case cat.

Yes. No. Our large sheets of glass were the largest single item by value in the whole build. I wanted to fit and forget. I did fit them, and did forget them until I used the strimmer for the first time. Loads of loose MoT1 lying about. Yes, it did throw up some stones, and Yes, they did hit the window (2m by 3m). Yes, I did stop. Sharpish. Yes, I did check our buildings insurance. But I can't remember what the outcome was. Man I wish I was 30 years younger. Loads of strimming left undone. ?

If the work had been done to standard , then the tradesman would have had nothing to fear. Inspection by another competent tradesman would have shown the work was done properly and you have been obliged to pay. The image (immediately above) documents bad, possibly dangerous practice. Document everything, then smile, say bye bye and ignore any invoices that come your way. How trades folk think they can get away with this stuff beats me. Honestly.

Morning! Here's chapter and verse.

Welcome. Sharpen your tools and sense of humour. You'll need both. Good luck. Ian

Suggestion .... see ... she's floating over some walk-on glazing, and has a suitably evil pair of eyes and ears.

Good to hear of your progress. Take loads of photos of the celebrations and do have just a little too much to drink tomorrow eh? Ian

I think you are right to be concerned. ... and, I assume, no evidence-based explanation of why the boards should - over time - stay there. Until you get a definitive answer, there's going to be that leeeettlll niggle - have the boards dropped a bit or not? You are right, timber moves - and so nobody can ever be certain sure what's going to happen. And so in my book, I'd assume it will happen. I suggest you consider securing them in some way that - never mind the glances or grimaces - reassures you. Stuff everyone else. The cost? Less than sorting it out later.

Excellent set of questions @harry_angel '... automatically lawful... ' my fingertip-sense says that if that were indeed the case, then they'd get on your case in a timely manner. So - I bet the answer's No. But @Ferdinand knows I guess ......

Said far more elegantly than I did earlier. It just like a row with a loved one. To force a stalemate, all thats needed is silence from one or other. @harry_angel's case is analogous to both parties - arms folded - eyeing one another with scarcely suppressed contempt. Which reminds me, must pop down the garage and get some (still in date) flowers . ?