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It's been the standard go-to in Ireland with a while for new builds I've seen. You can buy screw fittings if you don't have the compression tool. It's a very robust system. HEP2O is an easier system to install in my experience and has less restrictive fittings for flow and plenty good enough for houses. I would be happy with a multilayer system if done well though. Much more so than copper or cheaper push fit.

At least you know and have seen how it works, Parish councils can be very dull if nothing is happening, or can be vital in a livelier place, You would have noticed how easy it might be for someone to control things to their own advantage or prejudice. My point is though that complainers would benefit from attending. So much junk on local forums alleging corruption and incompetene,,,, so "do something" i feel.

Its still pointless, because government actions (and policies) is driving up prices. Your undeniable fact, flies in the face of reality. Doesnt matter if renewables are free. Prices are still going to go up. Potential? Who cares about that. Its of no consequence or relevance. Essentially, you are just day dreaming. But posting it on here.

The orginal point of this thread is that, despite what some political parties would have you believe, the UK's production of oil and gas are going to continue to fall, no matter what we do. We therefore have the choice between "Net zero" polices like demand reduction and electrification of heat and transport or becoming even more dependent on oil and gas from other countries the majority of which are not friendly. Renewable electricity is cheaper to generate than any other type. Therefore it has the potential to reduce the price of energy. This is undeniable. People are already starting to get cheaper electricty by using variable tarrifs to take advantage of times when you can get a khw of electricty for a penny. The fact that our current market setup doesn't pass this cheaper electricity price on to consumers isn't the fault of renewables. To blame the high price of electricity on renewables - that is the blatant lie, often told here (and in the media).

So either:…. MR PB on 400mm centres studs PB screwed every 100mm to studs Then tanked behind the tiles. Skimmed to batten above area to be tiled. or… MR PB on 600mm centres. 11mm OSB layer beneath PB PB screwed every 100mm on studs and mid point to give screw lines at 300mm centres. As above re tanking and skimming. Have I understood correctly?

Tedious doesnt start to cover it. At the last place, where i lived for 8 years, when i left, the parish council meeting minutes, were essentially the exact same list of issues as the day i moved in. Essentially, with one notable exception, they achieved just about nothing. I dont bother now. Experience tells me its genuinely a complete waste of time. Thats not as it should be, but sadly that is how it is.

But ProDaves point, which you ignored, is that the story we are told, is that renewables will reduce our electricity costs. This is false, or more accurately, a blatent lie, often repeated on here. And its a lie for the very reasons you outlined. As well as specific government policies that see addtional costs tacked on to bills. And those reasons are not going to change. I dont know what this thread is for other than you outlining a non existent uptopia?

Interesting - even knowing this, i can't find any references to it whatsoever. (I don't do YouTube videos willingly though) The Apollo msr2 is the same thing going (has an optional temp sensor, but totally unreliable) and I've struggled with the same issue in devices I've built professionally in the past so i sympathise with their struggle. It's annoying some projects we struggle to get one temperature sensor per floor, others we have 4 per room 😂. Like London buses eh

I would not advise skimming over paper, however well-bonded it appears to be. Borrow a steamer and steam it off. 24hrs seems a v short time to leave a deeper base-coat before skimming. I'd just say leave it longer. If you can get hold of a small amount of lime putty (which lasts forever when kept under water) you can just mix it as required with plastering sand. There are specialist lime etc. suppliers not so far from Oxford.

@botusbuild is correct. Because we are part of a larger market uk generators (like our hypothetical magic generator) will be able to export some of their electricity via the interconnects so we are "competing" with European energy prices. This is why the French experienced a spike in their electricity prices despite having lots of nuclear generators - French consumer were having to compete with British consumers for French nuclear electric. Of course this is governed by the interconnect capacity more than anything. At some point the UK will have so much capacity that it simply cannot export enough if it to boost the price - sort of like the problem Scotland has already... And a larger better connected grid is better. Ultimately we could be benefiting from Spanish solar, they will benefit from British wind, Norwegian hydro, solar and wind across Eastern Europe etc. Across Europe, the sun is usually shining somewhere and the wind is probably blowing somewhere. So yes, lowering the energy price isn't quite as simple as ditching the auction. On the other hand it is an artifact of our (wider) market so by making changes the price could probably be lowered - unless the current system and mix is (by some miracle) thr absolute optimum already.... 😁

I have just spent a few minutes trying to find some interconnect price, only one I found was from 2021, was around 19euro/MWh. Current prices can been seen here. https://grid.iamkate.com/ No idea how good Kate's site is, but I think her father used to lecture in RE at Plymouth.

Absolutely fine, i use a neoprene coated yoga mat from sport direct only a few pound. Pattern it dry to get a perfect fit, fix it with sticks like turbo, seal all around the edges and joints, never failed me

Won't make a bit of difference - sorry Why is it difficult to fix, keep building above 16, ideally warmer, then you air movement from outside to inside

I think it's about 5mm plus 10mm carrier board on say 40mm ertical battens to ventilate the cavity. Have a look at the K Rend website for typical build up.

Yes, and no. Yes, replace all FF generating capacity with non-FF alternatives and you can then price electricity accordingly. I'm really not going to respond to any comments on that statement. It's just not going to happen overnight, but I think we all agree on that. No, because while we are interconnected and other countries use gas (bought on that global market) we are beholden to the price of electricity of those other countries. Don't misunderstand me, I believe we should be investing to remove our dependence on using FF to create electricity, or find ways to remove the harm caused by using FF. There is no silver bullet, but it does not preclude us from doing what we can while remaining economically viable in a global economy. It's not easy. Out.

has the op stated what the said wall is constructed from?? or did i just miss it.

Isn't that more reason to deploy more, non thermal, generation capacity and storage. It is also amazing how fast a government can make financial changes, just look wheat they have done with student loans.

thanks for all the replies, i got the hot feed into the cistern, i seems to have stopped the condensation. as people have mentioned the humidity must be high, it is !!! its an old small stone house so humidity is a problem, but not necessarily an easy fix. i figure the lack of condensation on the cistern must be of benefit to the overall humidity in the bathroom. i did try lining the cistern as per photo, i did help but not enough for my needs. thanks for your help. carl

@Beelbeebub, before I say what I'm here to say, I agree with the overall sentiment of your POV of the OP. Now, do you understand that the auction is not just a national thing? As we are interconnected to Europe for electricity, that auction involves international suppliers. Behind all that is the global gas pricing market (a much bigger thing). Yes, it sucks, I agree. But all of that makes it a damn sight more difficult to change the system - just look at how long things take for the EU to reach agreement on anything as an example. By all means suggest the change, but keep in mind the diplomatic, economic, and geopolitical matters that would be brought to bear in trying to do so. I'm not saying its impossible but good luck trying to make it happen, or finding a political party that you can vote for who will make it happen.

Stainless steel?

Right so Plasson it is. Plasson Compression or Push fit? For the elbow: https://www.pipestock.com/plasson/pushfit-fittings/plpf-elbow-90 (350107 - 32mm push-fit) https://www.pipestock.com/plasson/compression-fittings/plmf-elbow-90 (352354 - 32mm compression) For the copper connection: https://www.pipestock.com/plasson/pushfit-fittings/coupling-pe-x-copper (350068 - 32mm to 28mm push fit) https://www.pipestock.com/plasson/compression-fittings/adaptor-male-bsp (352288 - 32mm to 1 1/4"/28mm compression) Plus 32mm pipe liners x 3: https://www.pipestock.com/pipe-liners The order process recommended a Boa Strap Wrench as well for the compression fittings. This will be my first time doing something like this so a few more questions: 1. Will I need to/should I be prepared to trim the ends off these MDPE pipes to get a good end? 2. If so, I assume I need pipe cutters. Deburring tool? Probably try and find a short length of pipe as well as a straight connector as there isn't much slack anywhere. 3. If using compression to the copper side, do I need PTFE/thread sealant? New olive? 4. If using push-fit, should I plan to cut the pipe and make a new fresh end? So pipe cutters and wire wool? 5. No pipe liner required for the copper end if using push-fit, right? 5. Anything else I'm not thinking of?

Ps, regarding your last paragraph: may I ask how long (or how many) systems you've used it on Just helps give me a perspective of reliability 😉

Cheers, Simon - very sound advice! 😁 I'd not heard of it before, but this plumber swears by it. He's invested in the tooling - which means he has the kit & know how. Although probably means he'd push this as his preferred option regardless I was concerned about the joints - I've heard push fit on plastic pipew can give over time & leak. I presume with these, having them sealed on the inside is preferable to anything push fit & will be sturdy enough From what I gather, this has been used on the continent for a while, and also on commercial heating. So (to me) it definitely sounds robust enough. Being slightly insulated probably also helps with any freezing problems too 👍 My only concern is: if in the highly unlikely scenario of needing to maintain it later (eg: some leak), it would limit options on emergency plumbers We'd be looking to extend the heating layout later (after house extension), which I presume would be easy enough to do with this set up A good many plumbers shun it, and I'm trying to figure out what (if any) disadvantages there are. Or if they're just old skool & stick to what they know Plenty of useful info to consider tho mate 👍

I tell all of my clients to have 4 seasons / 12 months of regular and normal living, and then we do a statistical download from the inverters etc to see what’s gone on (and if we need to / how we can improve things).

That's what you get doing a retrofit. And reusing 22mm Hep2O pipes, 12m each way to cylinder. Original install was combi boiler.