Hecateh Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Getting prices for boarding and skimming. Eye watering prices but I should be getting used to that Guy that came Saturday said I had to have pink boards for all the ceilings to meet fire regs but I can't find reference to that anywhere - either in my architects notes or building regs. The only thing in the architects ontes is 30min resistance which AFAICS ordinary plaster board gives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlewhouse Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 My super fussy warranty inspector said nothing about where I've already put normal plasterboard up in the downstairs bathroom and this is the guy who has had me writing to various different companies to get them to put in writing for him that their products (in use in buildings nationwide already) are "suitable" - and to be honest, if it was remotely possible to find an objection, my guy would have done it! If you check the manufacturers web sites and sellers like Jewson, B&Q, wickes etc (because sometimes they've beaten trade prices for me on some things!) they actually describe their standard plasterboards as "suitable for walls and ceilings". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 47 minutes ago, Hecateh said: Guy that came Saturday said I had to have pink boards for all the ceilings to meet fire regs but I can't find reference to that anywhere - either in my architects notes or building regs. The only thing in the architects ontes is 30min resistance which AFAICS ordinary plaster board gives. Pretty sure that's wrong for an internal ceiling of a dwelling. We had to have pink in the garage, but not in the house. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, jack said: Pretty sure that's wrong for an internal ceiling of a dwelling. We had to have pink in the garage, but not in the house. Yup. As the OP house is open plan ground level to entry level, 1 up 1 down ( split level over 3 floors ), then FR ( fire rated ) boards would do very little as the flames shot up the stairs. Guy that said that is just repeating what he's seen elsewhere with no cause or reason. NEXT! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecateh Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Cheers - I didn't think I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, Hecateh said: Cheers - I didn't think I did Can you put your general location up here so maybe someone can recommend boarders and skimmers for you ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecateh Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 S74 - five minutes from junction 36 M1 20 mins from A1 at Doncaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redoctober Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 We have just plaster boarded our first floor and used 3 types of board - Standard boards for the ceiling and external walls - boards with sound proofing properties for the internal partition walls and then moisture resistant boards for the bathroom and en-suite. Interestingly the sound proof boards weigh in at 6 kilos heavier than the standard ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 How about asking for a recommendation on the Plasterers’ Forum? https://plasterersforum.com/forums/public-looking-for-a-plasterer.91/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 42 minutes ago, newhome said: How about asking for a recommendation on the Plasterers’ Forum? https://plasterersforum.com/forums/public-looking-for-a-plasterer.91/ Noooooo don’t do it Most are jobbers looking to spend a couple of days boarding and skimming a room Cost you a fortune A proper company may not be as exspensive as you think and will invoice you when all is complete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecateh Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 When working out the square metres should they deduct something for windows and doors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, nod said: If it’s not three storey you don’t need fire boards 30 minutes is fine Unless you have an integral garage Two layers of fire line (Pink) Does it count as 3 storey if it's on 3 levels like @Hecateh's house is? Guess not. Maybe that's what he was confused about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecateh Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Just now, newhome said: Does it count as 3 storey if it's on 3 levels like @Hecateh's house is? Guess not. Maybe that's what he was confused about? Nah - that wasn't confusing him - he was saying on new builds all ceilings have to have pink - suspect the last new build he worked on may have had 3 storeys - or may even have been flats. He said you may get away with it upstairs, it depends on your building inspector but you have to have them in the kitchen! I was pretty sure I would have read something about it on here had it been true. lol The insurance company classed it as 3 storey I think - but that's another rip off - it also gets classed as having a basement as the back of the lower ground is set about 600mm into the slope. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecateh Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Got a quote at a good price. He only lives an hour away and has given me a price based on a 3 line description, although I did say it was about 400 sqm. "£2500". That's about £6.50 per sqm. Shall I snatch his hand off ... or give him a wide berth LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizzie Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, newhome said: How about asking for a recommendation on the Plasterers’ Forum? https://plasterersforum.com/forums/public-looking-for-a-plasterer.91/ Noooo please thats an evil place. When I had all the trouble with my boarding I asked on there. Its very scary dont go there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecateh Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, lizzie said: Noooo please thats an evil place. When I had all the trouble with my boarding I asked on there. Its very scary dont go there. Not from there - I've posted on my builder I get to vet those interested before anyone gets my contact details. Weirdly I am getting responses from Sheffield, Doncaster, Huddersfield and Chesterfield - Sheffield and Donny aren't too far if you are on my side. Not a single volunteer from Barnsley - perhaps BB has had me blacklisted Haha! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 40 minutes ago, Hecateh said: Got a quote at a good price. He only lives an hour away and has given me a price based on a 3 line description, although I did say it was about 400 sqm. "£2500". That's about £6.50 per sqm. Shall I snatch his hand off ... or give him a wide berth LOL See if you can find someone who knows him ideally, and Google his name to death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 That’s a better price and closer to what I expect. I didn’t realise how much building is going on in Sheffield - talking to a chippy who said he has to get lads from Manchester to work in Sheffield as everyone is busy ..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 minute ago, newhome said: See if you can find someone who knows him ideally, and Google his name to death! Ask him if you could have a look at the last full house that he’s done If he’s doing site work there should be numerous properties on the go A rough guide for two site plasters to fix 150 boards would be three to four days days with loading ( Normal height ceilings) Three days to skim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecateh Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, nod said: Ask him if you could have a look at the last full house that he’s done If he’s doing site work there should be numerous properties on the go A rough guide for two site plasters to fix 150 boards would be three to four days days with loading ( Normal height ceilings) Three days to skim With it being split level, it's mostly 2.4 ceilings but up to 4.8 around the stairs and 3.6 in the hall - about 2m x 4m area. The bedroom is partially vaulted but only up to the 2.4 level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, nod said: Ask him if you could have a look at the last full house that he’s done If he’s doing site work there should be numerous properties on the go A rough guide for two site plasters to fix 150 boards would be three to four days days with loading ( Normal height ceilings) Three days to skim A Quik look at the drawing will tell you The fire board is normally protecting steel But most three story don’t need more than half an hour fire protection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 On 19/08/2018 at 18:44, Hecateh said: With it being split level, it's mostly 2.4 ceilings but up to 4.8 around the stairs and 3.6 in the hall - about 2m x 4m area. The bedroom is partially vaulted but only up to the 2.4 level No that wouldn’t take much longer Perhaps an extra half day on boarding Theres a plaster on Ultimate diy Calls himself trowel monkey and seems to be the main one His boast is that he always has a bag of easi fill and goes back the following day and fillls for free Imagine that you’ve just got rid of the dirty buggers and they turn up to make more mess and dust ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecateh Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, nod said: Ask him if you could have a look at the last full house that he’s done If he’s doing site work there should be numerous properties on the go According to his splurge he has worked everywhere from Buck Palace to Emmerdale via Heathrow Airport and many points in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhome Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Hecateh said: According to his splurge he has worked everywhere from Buck Palace to Emmerdale via Heathrow Airport and many points in between. Never believe the marketing shit!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hecateh Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, nod said: A Quik look at the drawing will tell you The fire board is normally protecting steel But most three story don’t need more than half an hour fire protection The drawings say half an hour - it isn't 3 storey in height anywhere - is like 2 storey with a mezzanine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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