Toilet pan for soil pipe at 180mm - HELP (and a warning for others)

[BotusBuild]

This serves as a warning to all new self builders, who will likely see it when too late, and also to try and get myself out of a bind.

TL;DR - make sure the outlet of your pan (typically at 180-185mm centre !!!!!!!!!, or roughly 130mm from floor level) can be connected to your soil pipe without having to go UPHILL!!

 

Basically, I have a swept T where the T part comes up to 180mm (maybe a little lower) from the floor level (the one with the cap to the right in the picture below). By the time we have fitted the final floor it might be about 170mm, so still about 40mm higher than practically every floor standing pan available on the market. Second major mistake is that lot is now behind a plastered wall. Honestly, I don't think I could have f&*%ked this up more. I am furious with myself.

 

 

Anyway, options as I see it are:

1. Lower the soil pipe into which the swept T is fitted. I am not going down this route
2. The swept T has a seal on it. Option 2 is to cut the part with the seal away from the pipe, shortening the pipe, maybe by enough to get to about 150mm from dfloor level
3. Raise the floor level "locally" by 40-50mm for a floor standing pan to sit on (SWMBO's preferred type of toilet pan)
4. Fit a wall hung toilet pan which I can set to the height of my choosing (SWMBO thinks they look too commercial. It has been discussed and there may be a chink of light in the armour 🙂 )
5. Completely rejig the en-suite layout and pipework, which would include having to re-route the soil pipe from the cloakroom that is directly above this mess (it's currently behind that insulation).

 

So, apart from calling me an utter f*&%tard, which I deserve right now, please can anyone provide some kind enlightenment to the snivelling self builder in the corner?

 

Thanks

Edited 6 hours ago by BotusBuild
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[Alan Ambrose]

I feel for you. I spent ages searching for a replacement toilet for my mum's place which had the pan connector at the right level.

[Nickfromwales]

1 hour ago, BotusBuild said:

Fit a wall hung toilet pan which I can set to the height of my choosing (SWMBO thinks they look too commercial. It has been discussed and there may be a chink of light in the armour 🙂 )

Vanity was an Italian import, but imo the hung pans look very exclusive. Plenty of shapes and sizes to choose from. 

[-rick-]

46 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said:

imo the hung pans look very exclusive.

 

Easier to clean around too.

[Nickfromwales]

49 minutes ago, -rick- said:

 

Easier to clean around too.

Yup. No grotty silicone to scrub the pee from

 

Beer reduces accuracy…….

[MikeSharp01]

I guess all this means that the height of the seat can be anything or are there limits? I have an issue in that although the pipe is low enough I cannot get the pan back far enough with the pipe running onwards to the ensuite shower so I am looking to lift it up.

 

[BotusBuild]

I think there limits Mike. Not sure what they are.

There are various connectors that you can buy to link the outlet of the pan to the soil pipe.