Berkshire_selfbuid Posted Tuesday at 16:18 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 16:18 3 minutes ago, SBMS said: After that you’ll be able To deal with any issues that come up and think at least it wasn’t as bad as your last 24 hours! Agreed! It’s crazy how an experience like this puts everything else into perspective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone West Posted Tuesday at 16:55 Share Posted Tuesday at 16:55 Well done, I'm glad it's worked out well for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great_scot_selfbuild Posted Tuesday at 17:08 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:08 @Berkshire_selfbuid very pleased for you indeed. Do you need any help with the forms? (Can share my examples if you wish) Suggest you put both names (you & your wife) on the form, or at least consider it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great_scot_selfbuild Posted Tuesday at 17:10 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:10 (Don’t rest until you get the reply that acknowledges you’re exempt and amount due = £0.00; and then the for that acknowledges you’ve commenced. Then you can enjoy all the other challenges!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire_selfbuid Posted Tuesday at 17:13 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 17:13 4 minutes ago, Great_scot_selfbuild said: @Berkshire_selfbuid very pleased for you indeed. Do you need any help with the forms? (Can share my examples if you wish) Suggest you put both names (you & your wife) on the form, or at least consider it. Thanks so much for the offer. But my architect was onto the paperwork in a flash submitted the forms. Even got the acknowledgement letter back. Need a whiskey now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire_selfbuid Posted Tuesday at 17:16 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 17:16 4 minutes ago, Great_scot_selfbuild said: (Don’t rest until you get the reply that acknowledges you’re exempt and amount due = £0.00; and then the for that acknowledges you’ve commenced. Then you can enjoy all the other challenges!) Ha. Already received and can see the £0.00 CIL due. I have set a reminder in my phone in the future to go off every 2 weeks to do CIL form 7 Part 2 within 6 months of completion. There’s no way I’m letting that slide!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted Tuesday at 17:22 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:22 4 minutes ago, Berkshire_selfbuid said: Thanks so much for the offer. But my architect was onto the paperwork in a flash submitted the forms. Even got the acknowledgement letter back. Need a whiskey now! Have a large one and enjoy it . Fair play for posting this issue on the forum, it will serve as a reminder for those who follow as to the seriousness of CIL and how much of a financial benefit it is to us self builders ( if we reminder to fill out the forms 😀) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Ambrose Posted Tuesday at 17:39 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:39 The government are fairly fond of cliff edge ‘now you’re f….d’ rules. This kind of thing needs to be stopped both in the private sector but especially in the public sector. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miike Posted Tuesday at 17:41 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:41 I wonder how CIL liability and commencement works if it's extending an already existing house - you have 3 years to start from pp but what if you want to do other permitted development works first? Maybe you want to replace the roof or other significant works. What if in this situation the home owner had responded that they hadn't commenced works on the CIL liable work, they're just doing a separate extension which doesn't require pp? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russdl Posted Tuesday at 17:48 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:48 30 minutes ago, Berkshire_selfbuid said: There’s no way I’m letting that slide!!! I have a hunch that you’ll remember that even without reminders 😅 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookseehear Posted Tuesday at 17:55 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:55 I read through this earlier in horror - so pleased you got it sorted. I can't imagine what the last couple of days have been like! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great_scot_selfbuild Posted Tuesday at 17:57 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:57 37 minutes ago, Berkshire_selfbuid said: Ha. Already received and can see the £0.00 CIL due. I have set a reminder in my phone in the future to go off every 2 weeks to do CIL form 7 Part 2 within 6 months of completion. There’s no way I’m letting that slide!!! @Berkshire_selfbuid the big question now is… what are you going to do with the £127k you're just saved 🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted Tuesday at 18:09 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:09 9 minutes ago, Great_scot_selfbuild said: @Berkshire_selfbuid the big question now is… what are you going to do with the £127k you're just saved 🤣 Actually we don’t know if he had it in the first place, hence so much stress (fecking planners). well I am so pleased this has been resolved quickly, your sense of relief must be huge, this is such a great community in times like this. 🍷 💃 🕺 🥤 🍸 at least you will sleep tonight (pissed 🤣) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted Tuesday at 18:36 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:36 39 minutes ago, Great_scot_selfbuild said: what are you going to do with the £127k you're just saved Get a new architect. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmj1 Posted Tuesday at 18:49 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:49 I've been following this with interest. I'm so pleased for you. My heart sunk as I read this. I'm so glad they sorted it so quickly also and had a heart, sleep well tonight. It goes to show, when things go wrong, none of the "professionals" take responsibility. Have a drink today. Take care of the cil formalities and don't forget the latest submissions that are required either. This forum has helped me and so many others on so many issues over the years, and we're all here to give back. Good result! 👏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire_selfbuid Posted Tuesday at 18:51 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 18:51 1 hour ago, Buzz said: Fair play for posting this issue on the forum, it will serve as a reminder for those who follow as to the seriousness of CIL and how much of a financial benefit it is to us self builders Absolutely agreed. We need to share this info, including the joys and sadness, so that as much of us are informed as possible. Being a newbie, I put 100% trust in my architect. From now on, I will be going through everything with a fine tooth Combe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire_selfbuid Posted Tuesday at 18:55 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 18:55 56 minutes ago, lookseehear said: I read through this earlier in horror - so pleased you got it sorted. I can't imagine what the last couple of days have been like! Thank you. It’s frightening how a few sentences in an email can make the world cave in on you and then the same number of sentences but in a positive note brings instant joy so quickly, all within 24 hours. 🤯 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire_selfbuid Posted Tuesday at 19:05 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 19:05 58 minutes ago, Great_scot_selfbuild said: @Berkshire_selfbuid the big question now is… what are you going to do with the £127k you're just saved 🤣 Ha! Well, over the past day I’ve been thinking about where I can save money on the build to somehow keep the project alive but I was failing. That £127k feels like so much more now than it did before. I might proceed with some of these changes such as swapping velux for dormers (x5), doing away with solar PV. Let’s see. It’s certainly made me more cautious rather than just winging it and seeing how it goes from a cost perspective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire_selfbuid Posted Tuesday at 19:10 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 19:10 18 minutes ago, bmj1 said: I've been following this with interest. I'm so pleased for you. My heart sunk as I read this. I'm so glad they sorted it so quickly also and had a heart, sleep well tonight. It goes to show, when things go wrong, none of the "professionals" take responsibility. Have a drink today. Take care of the cil formalities and don't forget the latest submissions that are required either. This forum has helped me and so many others on so many issues over the years, and we're all here to give back. Good result! 👏 Amen to that. Thanks so much. Just glad it’s all sorted now, all other issues will hopefully just feel like a stone in the shoe in comparison. Certainly the most helpful, caring and informative forum I’ve ever come across. I will ensure I contribute on a more regular basis and give back where I can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSB Posted Tuesday at 19:21 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:21 you are very lucky my previous boss failed to submit as did his architect and he didn't get off and had to pay, in his case only 88k Our parish council have been reaping the benefits ever since as they get a percentage of all CIL payments In the end it cost him quite a bit more as he went legal and had those fees as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEO-PAR Posted Tuesday at 19:58 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:58 Good news you managed to resolve this! I have heard of this kind of thing before and wonder if a way around it is to simply apply for planning again showing the current state of the site as existing and your proposed design as proposed, with a slight amendment that is enough to be considered a 'material change'. You could then claim that what has been constructed already has been done so without planning and is nothing to do with the original application (which they are attempting to claim the CIL on). It would add 8 weeks to the build but give you another go at filling in the cill forms and in affect, you can claim the original permission was never acted upon. Would be a long shot and might need a little more thought, but would be worth a go rather than spending the ridiculous sums being mentioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted Tuesday at 20:20 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:20 1 hour ago, Berkshire_selfbuid said: I might proceed with some of these changes such as swapping velux for dormers (x5), doing away with solar PV. Other way around would be better. Use the PV to power some LED panels, or a screen with a camera outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire_selfbuid Posted Tuesday at 20:31 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 20:31 1 hour ago, LSB said: you are very lucky my previous boss failed to submit as did his architect and he didn't get off and had to pay, in his case only 88k Our parish council have been reaping the benefits ever since as they get a percentage of all CIL payments In the end it cost him quite a bit more as he went legal and had those fees as well. That’s awful, and was certainly the direction in which I would have ended up going. Not taking it for granted at all - this issue needs to headline news on all things self build related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great_scot_selfbuild Posted Tuesday at 20:34 Share Posted Tuesday at 20:34 1 hour ago, Berkshire_selfbuid said: Absolutely agreed. We need to share this info, including the joys and sadness, so that as much of us are informed as possible. Being a newbie, I put 100% trust in my architect. From now on, I will be going through everything with a fine tooth Combe. @Berkshire_selfbuid “trust but verify” - I had to part company with my PM after following this principle (not CIL related). Made me realise I knew enough and had the capacity to just do it all myself (especially with support from this community, which has been invaluable). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire_selfbuid Posted Tuesday at 20:36 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 20:36 34 minutes ago, GEO-PAR said: Good news you managed to resolve this! I have heard of this kind of thing before and wonder if a way around it is to simply apply for planning again showing the current state of the site as existing and your proposed design as proposed, with a slight amendment that is enough to be considered a 'material change'. You could then claim that what has been constructed already has been done so without planning and is nothing to do with the original application (which they are attempting to claim the CIL on). It would add 8 weeks to the build but give you another go at filling in the cill forms and in affect, you can claim the original permission was never acted upon. Would be a long shot and might need a little more thought, but would be worth a go rather than spending the ridiculous sums being mentioned. Yes. However the CIL payment gets triggered as soon as any work has started to the property, such as the start of demolition. So could be a tough one. I wonder if there is an option to sell the property and get rid of the CIL liability, and if the new owner can apply for a new CIL exception… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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