Tom Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 Heard back from the plumber and he would prefer to use a press-fit coupler rather than the standard compression. I said I was happy to go with whatever he recommended but any reason not to use a press-fit here? He said more reliable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceverge Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, jack said: That said, if I learned anything during our build, it's that virtually no-one ever listened to anything we said. In my experience, unless you were stood there looking over their shoulders, most trades just did things however they fancied, irrespective of what was agreed beforehand Nobody listens to instructions, nobody reads drawings. They're forbidden from thinking. Not because they're not capable but because there's a cultural rift between those allowed to do the thinking and those allowed to do the doing. It's totally archaic. If I was to do the house again I'd lock the site with one key and keep it that way unless I was there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceverge Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 44 minutes ago, Tom said: Heard back from the plumber and he would prefer to use a press-fit coupler rather than the standard compression. I said I was happy to go with whatever he recommended but any reason not to use a press-fit here? He said more reliable... Yup press fit are very good. This type of compression fitting with the built in inserts are very robust too. I wouldn't use these ones which rely on olives. Would it be worth digging up the other pipes anyway and seating them lower in the screed anyway. I'd be worried with so little coverage they would fray and wear over time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Iceverge said: Nobody listens to instructions, nobody reads drawings. They're forbidden from thinking. Well some do (mine did) however if you assume they won’t you can mitigate as much as possible. “You can’t cure stupid” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Yes the damage inflicted on our home during the build has been soul destroying at times. Most recently the plasterer slid open the sliding door and the handle hit the opposite post damaging the wood. Just a shrug of the shoulders when I pointed it out to him. My other half is a bit more sanguine than me so it bothers her less than it bothers me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 So a skilled tradesman turned up in site yesterday to expose the damaged ufh pipe ready for the plumber - and promptly put a hole through another pipe. You honestly couldn't make it up 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 19 minutes ago, Tom said: So a skilled tradesman turned up in site yesterday to expose the damaged ufh pipe ready for the plumber - and promptly put a hole through another pipe. You honestly couldn't make it up why are the bunched together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 Because I had 24 pipes coming through a doorway and going up a corridor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, Tom said: Because I had 24 pipes coming through a doorway and going up a corridor Do you have a picture of that area of pipework? Tbf, without one nobody would have expected that pipe to be there / for them to be congregated so densely. I take pics of everything before laying, saved my arse a few times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickfromwales Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 You’ll also need to dig out about 1m of trough to facilitate this repair, as the pipe needs to be apart by around 15-18mm to allow the union to be formed, then it needs to be pulled together by that 15-18mm to allow the inserts to seat into each side of the coupler. The compression ones are fine, and I don’t see how press-fit would be feasible as the tool head is very cumbersome and you’ve zero room to wiggle this all in (more so now, with the addition of casualty #2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 22/02/2024 at 18:35, Post and beam said: Then the entire loop has to be replaced, no brainer. You will never stop worrying about this if its not. Have you got their admission in writing? If so insist that you cannot have a joint in a UFH pipe. Replace . Is op planning to tile this floor ? I.e no chance of ‘easily’ fixing later if a leak … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocster Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Tom said: So a skilled tradesman turned up in site yesterday to expose the damaged ufh pipe ready for the plumber - and promptly put a hole through another pipe. You honestly couldn't make it up Ffs . These are the ‘professionals’ yes . (expletive deleted) me … 😵💫 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 37 minutes ago, Pocster said: Replace . Is op planning to tile this floor ? I.e no chance of ‘easily’ fixing later if a leak … Worse, a wooden floor is going over the top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 (edited) 1 minute ago, jack said: Worse, a wooden floor is going over the top. Alright alright, come on I need some positives here! Edited March 5 by Tom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 @Joe90 do you want to tell me how good your builder was again? 😄 I think that would finish me off... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 48 minutes ago, Nickfromwales said: Do you have a picture of that area of pipework? Tbf, without one nobody would have expected that pipe to be there / for them to be congregated so densely. I take pics of everything before laying, saved my arse a few times. The plumbers were meant to be repairing this, and they were the ones who actually connected the loops to the mannifold and commissioned it all before screeding, so they should have been well aware of all the pipes. Just seems like this information didn't filter down to the genius with the lump hammer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canski Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, Tom said: Alright alright, come on I need some positives here! You only need to call the plumber back once ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Tom said: So a skilled tradesman turned up in site yesterday to expose the damaged ufh pipe ready for the plumber - and promptly put a hole through another pipe. You honestly couldn't make it up Man, I feel for you. We had an UFH pipe nicked (honest mistake) in a much more accessible place and even that caused a lot angst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 I am sorry OP, this (expletive deleted)ing game can be a shitter can't it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Ffs. Frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 Fixed end of last week, seems to be holding pressure fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 (edited) In other news, I asked the plumber to put some inhibitor in when he filled the system again, as it seems he didn't bother first time around. Currently just hooked up to an electric boiler but soon will be an ASHP - is this the right stuff to use in this situation? Edited March 10 by Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andehh Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Can't comment on inhibitor but pleased to hear pipes have been solved. Average house has dozens and dozens and dozens of pipe joints without issue, put this behind you now and crack on! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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