Post and beam Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 For our new build i am trying to understand which doors if any are required to be fire rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 The door between the house and your internal garage The rest are fine unless your over three floors 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 We put in fire door and seals to the plant room, just because there's so much electrical stuff in there, if a fire were to start, it would be here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 10 hours ago, nod said: The door between the house and your internal garage The rest are fine unless your over three floors This, though mine is three floors from the front and two floors from the back. I discussed with the BCO and architect about the fire strategy and the BCO was satisfied there was an acceptable escape route to the rear on the part with two stories. I made sure I got this in writing before ordering and installing the doors. This means I didn't have to have fire doors to the central stairs. Only fire door I needed was to the integral garage. The bco will likely ask for a FD30s which is a 30min fire door with smoke seals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post and beam Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 We wont have an internal garage and its a 2 storey house so on this basis i dont need any fire doors. I am trying to budget for internal doors so this makes a difference. Need 14 in total. Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, Post and beam said: We wont have an internal garage and its a 2 storey house so on this basis i dont need any fire doors. I am trying to budget for internal doors so this makes a difference. Need 14 in total. Thanks guys Good to hear, though while on the subject of fire make sure your upstairs windows have suitable fire escape sizes and heights of the bottom of the openable area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post and beam Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 20 minutes ago, Moonshine said: suitable fire escape sizes and heights of the bottom of the openable area All over it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 28 minutes ago, Post and beam said: We wont have an internal garage and its a 2 storey house so on this basis i dont need any fire doors. I am trying to budget for internal doors so this makes a difference. Need 14 in total. Thanks guys i've been told by quite a few friends to get FD30 doors anyway as they're much more solid. yes, they're double the price but you can get a deal if you shop around and i dislike the flimsy feeling non-FD30 doors. ymmv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, Thorfun said: i've been told by quite a few friends to get FD30 doors anyway as they're much more solid. yes, they're double the price but you can get a deal if you shop around and i dislike the flimsy feeling non-FD30 doors. ymmv. Buy solid core doors not hollow core. You can also go 44mm for a heavy feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: Buy solid core doors not hollow core. You can also go 44mm for a heavy feel. what's the price difference between a solid core 35mm door and a 44mm FD30 door though? probably not a lot. we got a good deal on FD30 doors, they're bloody heavy and should be a good solid door. we got these XL Joinery doors for £143+VAT from Jewson. the 35mm version were £83+VAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Thorfun said: what's the price difference between a solid core 35mm door and a 44mm FD30 door though? probably not a lot. we got a good deal on FD30 doors, they're bloody heavy and should be a good solid door. we got these XL Joinery doors for £143+VAT from Jewson. the 35mm version were £83+VAT. From those figures it’s £60 times 12-14 doors that’s a grand. My 35mm solid cores turned up today, I really don’t want them a lot heavier they where a pig to carry around the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: From those figures it’s £60 times 12-14 doors that’s a grand. My 35mm solid cores turned up today, I really don’t want them a lot heavier they where a pig to carry around the house. yeah my 35mm solid cores feel heavy enough. Also the £60 uplift is there also due to the fire door certification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfun Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Russell griffiths said: From those figures it’s £60 times 12-14 doors that’s a grand. that's some interesting maths! 🤣 but i understand the sentiment. 1 hour ago, Russell griffiths said: I really don’t want them a lot heavier they where a pig to carry around the house. that's the chippie's problem. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Hi Can I just jump on this convo , our house is 3 storeys the plans say fire doors for second and top floor but ground floor doesn't is this correct ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 19 minutes ago, Willow said: Hi Can I just jump on this convo , our house is 3 storeys the plans say fire doors for second and top floor but ground floor doesn't is this correct ? Just thinking in common sense basically if your in the kitchen and a fire breaks out you will run out the back door, if your in the front room you will run out the front door. but if you are upstairs and your route to outside is blocked by fire you will want to hide behind a fire protected door until help arrives. look at it like this and walk around thinking how you will get out. Obviously check the regs, but that’s the general gist of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 4 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: look at it like this and walk around thinking how you will get out Your explanation should be line one of the fire section of the reg's. Maybe people who try to cheat the rules, and principles, will understand this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandgmitchell Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Normally, you will have a protected stairway all the way down to a final exit. That route is separated from rooms by minimum FD20 (realistically FD30 doors as they are easier to source) doors in 30 min. FR partitions. That would include the ground floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETC Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 4 hours ago, Willow said: Hi Can I just jump on this convo , our house is 3 storeys the plans say fire doors for second and top floor but ground floor doesn't is this correct ? No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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