Adsibob Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 We’ve been meaning to get a new toaster for ages. Have been coveting a Dualit Classic Newgen 4 slice toaster. I think it’s the most expensive toaster in the market, at £209 including “free” sandwich cages: https://www.dualit.com/products/4-slice-newgen?variant=45452773032247 Our requirements are that it can do 4 slices, can do bagels and other thick slices and ideally can switch the slots that aren’t being used off. It is this last feature which I think makes the Dualit Classic Newgen unique, in that you can choose how many of the four slots come on. With all four slots active, it is consuming 2200W, but we probably only have breakfast as a family twice a week, so the rest of the time there are savings to be made. But is it justified? Delonghi make a much cheaper version which I can get for £80: https://www.appliancesdirect.co.uk/p/ctin4003.bk/delonghi-ctin4003.bk-argento-toaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 I’ve not owned a toaster for 20 years. I just use the grill in the oven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, Adsibob said: But is it justified Not financially. Not sustainably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adsibob Posted December 26, 2023 Author Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, saveasteading said: Not financially. Not sustainably. Ah, but the Dualit one is made in Britain. Vote Brexit. Edited December 26, 2023 by Adsibob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 I’d say NO In saying that many of us have no room to talk As we spent 900 quid on a hot water tap and are about to do the same again A kettle would probably be cheaper than a basic toaster £209 is not a lot in the grand scheme of things Go for it 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 For me the no toaster and hot water tap reduces the clutter ok the work surface. I justified both by removing a whole row of cabinets and worktop so we just have an island and tall cabinets. Therefore no space for either a kettle or a toaster. Actually saved us money. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Adsibob said: We’ve been meaning to get a new toaster for ages. Have been coveting a Dualit Classic Newgen 4 slice toaster. I think it’s the most expensive toaster in the market, at £209 including “free” sandwich cages: https://www.dualit.com/products/4-slice-newgen?variant=45452773032247 Our requirements are that it can do 4 slices, can do bagels and other thick slices and ideally can switch the slots that aren’t being used off. It is this last feature which I think makes the Dualit Classic Newgen unique, in that you can choose how many of the four slots come on. With all four slots active, it is consuming 2200W, but we probably only have breakfast as a family twice a week, so the rest of the time there are savings to be made. But is it justified? Delonghi make a much cheaper version which I can get for £80: https://www.appliancesdirect.co.uk/p/ctin4003.bk/delonghi-ctin4003.bk-argento-toaster A Dualit one will last 25 years (ours did), and you can get spare parts (such as a set of reflector plates). The other is digital, and will not. It seems you can get it in a colour called Eucalyptus. They haven't fallen for Elephant's Breath, yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adsibob Posted December 26, 2023 Author Share Posted December 26, 2023 Interestingly, there is a significantly cheaper Dualit one on John Lewis (which still costs what a large appliance might set you back), that has very mixed reviews. Some reviews are practically orgasming over the evenness of their toast’s toasting, whereas others say it’s rubbish: https://www.johnlewis.com/dualit-lite-4-slice-toaster-with-warming-rack/gloss-black/p231521950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adsibob Posted December 26, 2023 Author Share Posted December 26, 2023 I wonder how much of the Sualit price tag goes on the marketing budget: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceverge Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 £200 for a toaster is mental. However it's your money, you don't have to justify a damn thing! Buy it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 10 hours ago, Adsibob said: Ah, but the Dualit one is made in Britain. Vote Brexit. Does that mean it can't do French toast. 11 hours ago, Kelvin said: I just use the grill in the oven. What I do. At work I often toast over 100 slices a day, plus rolls, buns and muffins. 6 hours ago, Iceverge said: £200 for a toaster is mental. The last toaster I bought was from Argos, less than a fiver. £10.40 now. 9 hours ago, Ferdinand said: A Dualit one will last 25 years £200 / 25 years = £8/year My £5 pound one lasted over a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 8 hours ago, Adsibob said: I wonder how much of the Sualit price tag goes on the marketing budget: More than what they spend on reliable and repeatable automation. (James May is editing the Today show, um, today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Get one that has a shou sugi ban setting for charring the pallet wood on the shed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Actually, that toaster seems quite cheap, but you will need one of these. Egg Soldiers for breakfast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Don't forget to get a new bread knife 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Ambrose Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 I think the original Dualit design is a classic - both old-fashioned but also very modern in its repairability. I have one 29 years old and I don’t expect to replace it anytime soon. I’ve replaced the elements twice and the timer once. And this design didn’t require any clever engineering - just that the thing is held together with screw fasteners and also that spare elements and mechanical timer switches are made available. Wouldn’t it be great if more products would last a lifetime and were very simple to repair? I would fill my house with products like that. >>> £200 / 25 years = £8/year >>> My £5 pound one lasted over a year. i’m not a rabid enviromentalist - but just for engineering efficiency I would prefer not to send a dozen or so cheap toasters to landfill. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Alan Ambrose said: not a rabid enviromentalist - but just for engineering efficiency Delete rabid, never a good thing, and I'd say promoting engineering efficiency is being an environmentalist. Back to the original post: is the energy saving justified by the cost? I still say no. However there are other ways to spend £200 and it's simply gone. Meals out, watching sport. If the toaster gives pleasure then that is justification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adsibob Posted December 27, 2023 Author Share Posted December 27, 2023 Query: the Dualit toaster is not meant to be used under a kitchen wall cabinet. Is it okay to ignore this instruction? My cabinet is about 56cm above the worktop. So a 21cm high toaster would be c. 35cm below the cupboard‘s bottom. Safe or stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 I'm guessing yours is not a cheap kitchen. The foil covering type of unit may well suffer from that level of heat. I think wood and laminate will not. Looking now at our toaster which is 250mm below a wall cupboard. No problems. Microwave, air fryer ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, Adsibob said: Query: the Dualit toaster is not meant to be used under a kitchen wall cabinet. Is it okay to ignore this instruction? My cabinet is about 56cm above the worktop. So a 21cm high toaster would be c. 35cm below the cupboard‘s bottom. Safe or stupid? Line the underside of the cabinet with a sheet of asbestos and it'll be fine. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Alan Ambrose said: i’m not a rabid enviromentalist - but just for engineering efficiency I would prefer not to send a dozen or so cheap toasters to landfill WEE stopped that happening about a decade ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adsibob Posted December 27, 2023 Author Share Posted December 27, 2023 But seriously, is there something safe I could line the cupboard with? It’s really the cupboard’s pelmet which is the potential risk point, being the lowest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Adsibob said: something safe I could line the cupboard with A sheet of stainless steel would be the tidiest and consistent with hoods etc. as it is completely invisible behind the pelmet, cement board even. or a sacrificial laminate. Or nothing at all. The heat goes into the toast, or should. i suspect they are being cautious. We have a pelmet too., just 200mm above the toaster and keeping the heat in. i think it is mdf with foil covering , and it is fine after 6/7 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Punter Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 I have a Dualit 3 slice (2+1) and it is about 30 years old. If you must put it under a wall cupboard, bring it towards the front and if you are doing a massive toasting session, relocate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Dualit seem to have a range of multiple toasters, starting at a far lower price. https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/is-it-worth-buying-a-dualit-toaster-aGavh9G4GTOh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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