Andi Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 We’ve just got PP to convert some barns. We won’t live on site but want to put a touring caravan there for daytime use. PP states no static caravan allowed, but if we put a tourer there and just used it for making hot drinks and using the loo is that allowed? has anyone done this and what are the pros and cons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 That's exactly what we did. Hid it best we could from 5h3 road so wouldn't get complaints. Loved it. During the build I was working a flexible 3 day week and it worked out great for a small office space. Being able to cook and heat food was a great money saver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andi Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 There’s an area of hard standing we can put it on which is away from the road and has trees around so would be well hidden. It’s very remote so we would need to be able to make food, drinks and use the loo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 53 minutes ago, Andi said: PP states no static caravan allowed, Never heard of that before!!!, well a tourer is not a static and you have to have facilities for your builder (you) so crack on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andi Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 It states it at the bottom of the PP from the council. Seems it’s a standard thing now (maybe just our county?). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Andi said: There’s an area of hard standing we can put it on which is away from the road and has trees around so would be well hidden. It’s very remote so we would need to be able to make food, drinks and use the loo! Get a hose adapter for the water supply and two big propane tanks and most importantly a reminder in your calendar to empty the toilet cassette! I tried to use the site portaloo as much as possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post and beam Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 So this is your everyday family car then. No reason why you cant drive to visit your site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andi Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Conor said: Get a hose adapter for the water supply and two big propane tanks and most importantly a reminder in your calendar to empty the toilet cassette! I tried to use the site portaloo as much as possible. We have a spring on site so have water, we can empty the waste water at the house we will be renting. We will have a portaloo but that will be for the builders only! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andi Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 26 minutes ago, Post and beam said: So this is your everyday family car then. No reason why you cant drive to visit your site. We’re thinking of a caravan rather than a motor home, but that is an option we’re considering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyTea Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Keep the number plates on it, and the tyres pumped up, and there really can't be much of an argument that it is a touring van. What are you going to do about security? gas bottles are easily moved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patp Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 We heard directly from the horses mouth when the council visited our site that our Fifth Wheel Caravan was ok but a static caravan would not have been. I think there is precedence for people claiming a static as a separate domestic property and going for a demolish and rebuild planning application after a set number or years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMo Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Don't ask the council if it's ok, you may not get the answer you want. Just crack on with it. If in doubt - don't ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 22 hours ago, Andi said: We’ve just got PP to convert some barns. We won’t live on site but want to put a touring caravan there for daytime use. PP states no static caravan allowed, but if we put a tourer there and just used it for making hot drinks and using the loo is that allowed? has anyone done this and what are the pros and cons? id put a non material amendment in to add permission for static van during works. if the morons refuse appeal it with costs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andi Posted August 27, 2023 Author Share Posted August 27, 2023 8 hours ago, SteamyTea said: Keep the number plates on it, and the tyres pumped up, and there really can't be much of an argument that it is a touring van. What are you going to do about security? gas bottles are easily moved. It’s quite a remote site and we plan to put up some security cameras (we will have a lot of materials on site). Not sure about the gas bottles - thanks for pointing that out, we will have to think about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andi Posted August 27, 2023 Author Share Posted August 27, 2023 5 hours ago, patp said: We heard directly from the horses mouth when the council visited our site that our Fifth Wheel Caravan was ok but a static caravan would not have been. I think there is precedence for people claiming a static as a separate domestic property and going for a demolish and rebuild planning application after a set number or years. We’d love a fifth wheeler!!! Not sure we have the space or the £££ for one though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 5 hours ago, patp said: We heard directly from the horses mouth when the council visited our site that our Fifth Wheel Caravan was ok but a static caravan would not have been. I think there is precedence for people claiming a static as a separate domestic property and going for a demolish and rebuild planning application after a set number or years. That is why Highland council grant temporary planning for a static caravan only, with the stipulation the static caravan must be removed before occupation of the new house. I bent that as far as I could and got mine amended to "habitational use of the caravan shall cease upon occupation of the house" so mine remains as a work room and store room. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saveasteading Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Overthinking. If it has wheels it isn't static. Also it is easily sold on at end of use. Plus if it happens to be in the way, it's easy to shift. They are very poorly insulated so allow lots of heating or jumpers. Ours was for living in. Brrrrr. But now will be sold to the next intrepid highland self builder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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