PeterW Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 7 hours ago, Temp said: Is there an oil filter in the hydro unit? I'll have to investigate as I've never changed one in mine if there is. Mind you mine leaks so it's getting new oil regularly. On mine if you look at the drive unit from the back there is a socket bolt on the right near the bottom. If you undo the plug you can take the filter out. Will see if I can find a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 I need to check the gearbox oil on this Westwood. A Peerless gearbox I think. No idea where the filler is. No doubt somewhere bloody awkward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterW Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just checked and it's a Tuff Torque gearbox on the Stiga. I know Westfield and a few others use these but the filter is £45 in the U.K..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just had a look at the assy drawing for my Toro and it has 2 filters in the hydro unit. The small one is £12 in the UK and the larger is £41-£48. Never seen/noticed any references to these in the servicing. The larger one appears to be buried inside the unit and I think would be a big job to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Actually the smaller one appears to be fitted from the inside as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Brake seized up! Peerless gearbox I believe: Two steel studs tapped into the alloy gearbox case: Corroded and then some. Should have a threaded portion on the ends. So this (broken) Cast bit can bolt on: Too bloody cold to carry on out there tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC45 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 why not get some sheep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 25 minutes ago, CC45 said: why not get some sheep? My mate did offer yesterday to lend me his guinea pig! 1/2 acre of grass though...capybara maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 My mate in California (shortly Oregon) is hopefully sending me a new casting. If not I'll carve one out of a block of ali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpd Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 JB weld ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly P Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 How are you getting on with the westwood mower? I have bought one and I'm going to service it in the new year ready for the springtime ( we have a lot of work to do with it up to the summer) Have you a preferred parts supplier and do you know if the transmission has a oil filter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 27 minutes ago, Olly P said: How are you getting on with the westwood mower? I have bought one and I'm going to service it in the new year ready for the springtime ( we have a lot of work to do with it up to the summer) Have you a preferred parts supplier and do you know if the transmission has a oil filter? Sat under a tarp at the mo. Done nothing since my US mate sent me the brake caliper. Pm me your email and I'll send you the info I have on the T1200. These are scans and a parts list from Westwood themselves as the stuff isn't available in electronic format as it's so old. I get most of my bits from Godfreys in Sevenoaks but most agricultural machinery suppliers should be able to help. B&S engine on mine so all standard parts available anywhere. The Peerless gearbox is supposedly maintenance free but the shaft seals do apparently fail. Deffo no filter. A few vids on YouTube of them being stripped. Will try and find a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) I have a Massey Furguson lawn tractor and the axle seals went but read that the gearbox/hydro unit was factory sealed and no components available. I dug the seals out and found replacements from a beating supplier locally, which I inserted. No where could I find what type of oil and how much was required so I rang the gearbox manufacturers in the USA and their tech guy told me which oil and how much ?. It’s sat waiting fir me to complete the landscaping. Edited December 2, 2018 by joe90 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly P Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Fantastic I will Pm you my email now. Mines also a B&S engine. I am going to use it to cut my 4 acre field (not all of it, only maybe half of it more or less but undecided yet). We are using the field to put a fairly large marquee on for a weekend in august next year and it has had 5 bullocks in it most of this year so it needs some TLC, plenty of cutting, rolling and harrowing to get it looking nice. Im looking forward to getting stuck in but im starting to think maybe i should of got a larger machine but this came up for sale locally and is in fantastic condition and came with a little trailer, spare "arrow" wheels/tyres. Have you used yours to cut any long rough grass? If so how did it cope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 I'll dig out and send that stuff. It's a good mower tbh. I only have half an acre and that's split into about 3 grassed areas. It copes fine even if long. Walk your field first and look for any debris like bricks etc which will destroy your blade. Rust in the body panels is an issue. I think they just powdercoated over the steel. The grass collection box uses a flail system of nylon brushes. I replaced the majority when given the motor. One thing is they slide into a 1" box section that can rust & swell then pop the individual flails. I do have some spare lengths of 1" box of you need it. I've a long term problem when you put it into reverse too quickly and the drive belt jumps off. Not figured that yet but tbh its a bit scary to get down and look whilst it's going! There's "tips" bolted on the ends of the blades that can come loose so check them. Something to do with creating uplift and sucking the grass up I think. I ended up welding mine on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 You want one of these:- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 @Olly P, just sent (just remembered ) those mower PDFs to you via email. Regards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly P Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Brilliant thanks for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 FINALLY sorted the brake / clutch. Those two poxy, broken 1/4" BSW bolts fought me until the end! Moved the big orange patio ornament yesterday. Getting it back to the main lawn was fun. A mate and I handballed it down originally...he's having his hernia op tomorrow... ? Now to sort: - Seized pulley on the cutting deck - Seized pulley on the grass box - Seized grass roller, back of the grass box. Biggest problem is the corrosion on the cutting deck side skirt. Was going to make up a new one today and weld on but it hasn't stopped raining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 All repaired and painted up, derusted where possible. Either painted with just zinc rich whatever (using up dregs of cans) or zinc rich followed by Lidl Baufix paint. 90% of the fixings will be renewed in stainless. Be nice to use just a 13mm spanner and socket rather that 7/16" on the bolt and 1/2" on the nut! Better than it was anyway: New section of side skirt and internal "deflector shields" made: Typically, just before the lockdown, I found a local blasting shop that seems to be the sort of place ideal to have cleaned the deck up back to bare metal for reasonable money. Or I could have made up a citric acid bath with some blocks and a sheet of DPM maybe... As it stands my attempts with the rotary wire cup brush should give it a couple more years. Tbh there's bugger all to the deck. I might even consider making one o/of stainless steel next time and just transferring all the bits over. Wishing I'd bought one of those Lidl plasma cutters a while back. Far less complicated than the rotten deck on the other ride on mower I have, an MTD. Ref the assembly of this deck unsure on how important it is to balance the blades? Pre strip down it vibrated like merry Hell. The blade is retained by a central 3/8"x24 UNF bolt and a projecting plain shank "pin" that again goes into the same size UNF tapped hole in one of two holes either side. One blade had clearly been moving about as it had worn the holes oval. All filled with weld and re drilled now. Useless supplier just sent me a 3/4" UNF tap rather than a 3/8" one! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFDIY Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Looks like you'll get a few years from that. Thereused to be someone in eBay doing new decks for Westwood's. Might have stopped advertising in the short term. I'd try and get new blades if you can, made a massive difference to my folks old mower, they were about half as thick as they should be, lost about 1/2" off the cutting edge and had lost the wings that create the draught to blow the clippings into the collector duct. It was not picking up properly before, now it's almost as good as new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, JFDIY said: Looks like you'll get a few years from that. Thereused to be someone in eBay doing new decks for Westwood's. Might have stopped advertising in the short term. I'd try and get new blades if you can, made a massive difference to my folks old mower, they were about half as thick as they should be, lost about 1/2" off the cutting edge and had lost the wings that create the draught to blow the clippings into the collector duct. It was not picking up properly before, now it's almost as good as new. Chap over on the MIG welding forum does them to order in stainless. As I say I could get the sheet material from my fabricator and make my own. Making a full skirt like I did for the section, by notching and bending is pretty labour intensive. Rolling would be much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 Dog rough but it's pretty much ready to go back on. Got the belt guard still in the citric acid tank along with a couple of pulley caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) Just for info.. I've seen someone on eBay making replacement decks. You have to transfer over bearings, blades etc https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RIDE-ON-MOWER-CUTTING-DECKS-Countax-Westwood-kubota-Hayter-Atco-Toro-wheelhorse/183779120782?hash=item2aca16d68e:g:7F4AAOxy4t1SlyCR&_trkparms=ispr=1&checksum=183779120782c3ff37a134634d2da5715f876ba6a207&enc=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&redirect=mobile Edited April 19, 2020 by Temp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 On 18/04/2020 at 10:50, Onoff said: Ref the assembly of this deck unsure on how important it is to balance the blades? When I sharpen mine on the bench grinder I balance them by laying them on a triangular file like a seesaw. I don't get too fussy about it and they seem ok. Likewise it's not always possible to set the blades at exactly 90 degrees to each other, they are sometimes a tooth out on the belt. That doesn't seem to be a problem either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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