scottishjohn Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 looking s/h "lewis pins " or something to lift my granite stone around -new ones start at £200+ rebuilidmg the long wall and its got lots of big granite top stones that I cannot lift -wall is 100+yds long and as I can only get at one side --the other side is a 40ft drop --I need something to attach to a digger to lift them I cannot even find sensible priced stone tongs and no one to hire them from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Hmmm, same problem, but smaller scale, John. This may interest you : and of course, I've sold my LandRover the other day .... and then there's this ... But this is the best, I think Wadja fink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 good idea if i had space to get landrover sieways across the road with space to manouvre --but no I,m plotting on some way to use my dumper ,which has swing -side tip maybe a scaffolding pole out front of it with swivel and lifting straps - tilt the dumper bucket to raise and lower the stone and swivel for fine postioing . rummaging about at my garage to see what I can find +buy some web slings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToughButterCup Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, scottishjohn said: good idea if i had space to get landrover sieways across the road with space to manouvre --but no I,m plotting on some way to use my dumper ,which has swing -side tip maybe a scaffolding pole out front of it with swivel and lifting straps - tilt the dumper bucket to raise and lower the stone and swivel for fine postioing . rummaging about at my garage to see what I can find +buy some web slings Lets hope @Onoff reads this. The last of the videos above has a separate crane unit - based on two strong A frames. That appeals to me. Hitched to a towing point, it means that the unit can be stored and tinkered with separately. Is there any way to attach a rig like that to the swinging part of the dumper? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, ToughButterCup said: Lets hope @Onoff reads this. The last of the videos above has a separate crane unit - based on two strong A frames. That appeals to me. Hitched to a towing point, it means that the unit can be stored and tinkered with separately. Is there any way to attach a rig like that to the swinging part of the dumper? The BiL funnily enough has knocked up a box section jib for the front of his dumper. No calcs, just rule of thumb / over engineered. I'll get a pic over the next day or so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 I only need to lift approx 3-4 ft from ground for top of wall so trying not to get to complicated and spend a week making something obviously I can as I have all engineering facilites mig tig ,lathe miller -etc etc -- but not a site 9miles away transporting dumper will cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 If I had an old harvey frost hand wound landrover breakdown crane that would be good as could bolt ot dumper --but I don,t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Fork lift hire? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmiller Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 a set of pallet forks for the digger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) dumper converted and working well consists of a kwickstage upright 10ft with a length of thick walled steam pipe tack welded to the scaffolding pole brackets ,so I can reclaim the pole when done and bolted with brackets to the dumper at one corner -so i can still use it if needed in the mean time dumper can still tip fully ,pole end is close to ground when tipped It lifts every stone i have tried so far with no bending or even flexing average granite stone size I have been moving about is 700mm x 350m x 350mm. the capping stones for my big long wall. taking down wall to repair and rebuilding with morter ,not just dry so far 12t of sand 70bags of cement and only about half way will post pictures at some point Edited July 7, 2022 by scottishjohn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, scottishjohn said: average granite stone size I have been moving about is 700mm x 350m x 350mm 2750kg/m3 granite = 235kg - the same weight as 1m3 of snow, or about the weight of a mature pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted July 8, 2022 Author Share Posted July 8, 2022 i gave it a real test today and moved a tote bag of sand --no problem 18 hours ago, Radian said: 2750kg/m3 granite = 235kg - the same weight as 1m3 of snow, or about the weight of a mature pig. certainly a lot more than a 70year old and his wife can lift off and then replace onto the repaired wall LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProDave Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 This thread NEEDS some pictures. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoff Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ProDave said: This thread NEEDS some pictures. Let's be honest, they're usually epic and worth the wait! Edited July 8, 2022 by Onoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 this mornings pictures of dumper and attaxhment 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell griffiths Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Have you got a digger, make a pair of timber tongs for a mini digger, short bit of chain and tongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishjohn Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: Have you got a digger, make a pair of timber tongs for a mini digger, short bit of chain and tongs. no I don,t and tongs would neever grip securly a 2-300kg odd shape stone . slings are working fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radian Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 That's a fantastic wall! Proper chunky top, not just a mound of mortar and some tortilla chips shoved in - like we see all over Dorset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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