April 15, 20224 yr I reckon a ramp and pulley/hoist are your best ideas. It's surprising how only a small angle ramp reduces the effective weight of the material being lifted. Also gives you more control. You could also get some castor wheels and create a dolly for the EPDM roll, or as already suggested load it onto some plywood or OSB to slide along the ground. All my materials went up that way including the glulam beams either on my own or with one person helping. I bought a hoist that had enough cable to reach to the bottom of the driveway so could pull materials up from the roadside. It looks a bit weird and unconventional, but it worked and saved a shed load compared to hiring in lifting machinery.
April 15, 20224 yr Chap I know from working with an NZ firm for a bit built his own crane when he built his place there:
April 15, 20224 yr I would genie lift it to roof 3 (onto a temp ply base) and then have a small ply ramp to get from roof 3 to roof 2. Using a wheeled dolly for that last bit, as suggested above) could work well. I had to get two 180kg stone baths to the first floor of our build, did not trust the temp MSF stairs to hold (given they were secured with a few screws). Luckily we had an atrium through which the genie could lift them and I roped in a few mates, just to be safe. Was a quick job in the end.
April 15, 20224 yr Author Some interesting ideas here, thanks. The idea is to fix the ply deck in place, and get the epdm up and at least resting in place all as one operation if possible, so as to minimise the time the ply is exposed to the risk of rain. I'll have at least one other person with me when I do all this, so I reckon I'll hire a genie for the day, and possibly a block tackle kit, then work my way through the various options. My concern about using the joists to winch the roll up, especially if I use a counter weight, is the amount of stress I'm placing on the joists. The whole of the joists are resting on a wall plate at one end (only on the inside leaf), but at the other end (above the steel) only the top chord of the joist is resting, and I may be taking a risk relying on that to take the weight.
April 15, 20224 yr Should we set up a build hub extra muscle hot line. I need 4 lads to help soon fitting some plasterboard. Im more than happy to help anybody out. Im in Cirencester Gloucestershire. Any thoughts admin gods.
April 15, 20224 yr Author 3 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: Should we set up a build hub extra muscle hot line. I need 4 lads to help soon fitting some plasterboard. Im more than happy to help anybody out. Im in Cirencester Gloucestershire. Any thoughts admin gods. A Labour exchange is an excellent idea. It could also be an opportunity to learn a bit from each other on site. Unfortunately you're too far away from me, but good luck.
April 15, 20224 yr 5 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: need 4 lads to help soon fitting some plasterboard. Do yourself a favour and buy/rent a plasterboard lifter, last job I did I bought one secondhand and wondered why the hell I had struggled for years without one, I even sold it fir more than i paid fir it 🤷♂️
April 15, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, joe90 said: Do yourself a favour and buy/rent a plasterboard lifter, last job I did I bought one secondhand and wondered why the hell I had struggled for years without one, I even sold it fir more than i paid fir it 🤷♂️ I'm guessing he might mean distributing them around the place pre lifting?
April 15, 20224 yr Author 6 minutes ago, Onoff said: I'm guessing he might mean distributing them around the place pre lifting? I'm sure I've seen board lifters that double up as trolleys to help get boards where needed. I shouldn't think they can climb stairs of course...
April 15, 20224 yr 1 hour ago, Russell griffiths said: Should we set up a build hub extra muscle hot line. I need 4 lads to help soon fitting some plasterboard. Im more than happy to help anybody out. Im in Cirencester Gloucestershire. Any thoughts admin gods. Great idea. BTW I'm an hour away from you and have a board lifter. How soon is soon?
April 15, 20224 yr 3 minutes ago, SimonD said: Great idea. BTW I'm an hour away from you and have a board lifter. How soon is soon? Board lifter is cool, however it needs to go up 4m, I’m thinking of adapting mine, but haven’t put that much thought into it yet.
April 15, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, Russell griffiths said: Board lifter is cool, however it needs to go up 4m, I’m thinking of adapting mine, but haven’t put that much thought into it yet. I have an extension as some of my ceilings are 3.6m. IIRC it does 4.2meters. I will check.
April 15, 20224 yr 1 minute ago, SimonD said: I have an extension as some of my ceilings are 3.6m. IIRC it does 4.2meters. I will check. Ooh Er, that’s good to know.
April 15, 20224 yr 5 minutes ago, Russell griffiths said: Ooh Er, that’s good to know. Just checked, it's up to 4.65m working height
April 15, 20224 yr 23 minutes ago, Onoff said: My lad and I will be travelling to Gloucester one Saturday soon. That could be a plan, could have the tubby welsh bloke here as well.
April 15, 20224 yr btw, is it a cold deck flat roof? it seems to be the way you're talking about putting the decking down prior to epdm
April 15, 20224 yr Author 2 hours ago, Simplysimon said: btw, is it a cold deck flat roof? it seems to be the way you're talking about putting the decking down prior to epdm Yes it is.
April 15, 20224 yr we're not allowed to build with cold deck up here surprised you are. the warm deck is a far better design and it may be worth looking to change if possible.
April 15, 20224 yr Author 10 minutes ago, Simplysimon said: we're not allowed to build with cold deck up here surprised you are. the warm deck is a far better design and it may be worth looking to change if possible. I'm very close to other houses so went for the lowest height I could. How do you mean you're not allowed to use a cold deck? Who forbids it, and on what basis?
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