willbish

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Not that much to read on the forum regarding metal stud walling and the different configurations.

Ive got 26 running metres of partition walling to put up, most at 2.4m high

Having had a good gander at the 'White Book' Im drawn to a couple of options

 

Either I studs staggered with 1 sheet of soundbloc each side, 50mm acoustic roll. 102mm depth overall

Shown here, pic 1:

 

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Or C studs with double sheets of standard board, 50mm acoustic roll. 100mm deep. Closely pictured as number 2:

 

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I haven't yet done any cost comparison with timber yet, any good suppliers to approach? I'll give my local builders merchants a buzz tomorrow but I'm not confident they'll be at all competitive or even know what Im on about..

 

@Dreadnaught was going down this route, how far did you get?

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@nod is your man to ask about this stuff 

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@willbish, my timber frame is not up yet, so not porgressed the stud walling at all yet, but still convinced of my decision to use metal framing.

 

As you probably know, @nod is our resident expert.

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Go staggered if you can, a 3 dB increase in sound insulation isn't to be sniffed at.

 

Typically a metal frame wall will acoustically out perform a timber stud of a similar build up.

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Always feel more rattley to me when built to equivilant timber sections. You can also stagger a timber stud with 4x2 sole and top plate 3x2 studs. Also the amount of patrices or ply metal stud work Seems to need and lack of flexibility to nog out puts me off. It does have it's advantages too just have to compare your key criteria

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Metal stud out performs timber 

Straighter

Wont shrink 

Acoustically out performs timber 

Three time quicker to install 

Can be built 9 mtre  high and remain plumb
I stud is much stronger than timber 

You can nog out 

But most just use flat plate 

 

Each year we do groups of between 150 -200 roomed student 
accommodation Nearly always TF 

due to time restraints The partitioning would be easy for Tge TF guys to do as they go along 

But due to sound fire 

We follow them through with the framing 


Wiring  and plumbing is also much easier with MF

Pretty much like 

Possi v Solid timber joists 

 

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Nice one thanks @nod

 

Do you notice any difference in rigidity with say staggered I studs at 300 centres compared to C studs not staggered at 600.

Neither are fixed top at bottom so I'm guessing no/not a lot of difference

 

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4 minutes ago, willbish said:

Nice one thanks @nod

 

Do you notice any difference in rigidity with say staggered I studs at 300 centres compared to C studs not staggered at 600.

Neither are fixed top at bottom so I'm guessing no/not a lot of difference

 

Any stud set at 300 will be more rigid than 600 It’s quite rare to set mf studs at 3 or 400 Usually I stud that is load baring 
We often build 5 mtr high walls and the strength comes from double staggered boarding 

I set our at 600 and used a 15 mil SB single layer Very solid at only 2.6 high 

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I used the 150mm steel studs to partion my building  at front with staggered19mm plank then fireproof Pb -- solid as a rock once you get the PB attached to it and very sound proof -by the time you have the fire curtain hung in the middle 

 back of building was a 9"soild killer block wall to 8ft ,with butresses then same 150mm stud to go to the roof 

If it was not a car workshop --might have been tempted to do it all in steel studding but also was getting a bit high in the center 

bought the fancy tool to join them together --not impressed with that --would us wood nogins if doing it again

would def consider using it in a house  --when did you last see a straight bit of  CLS

 

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