nod Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Im about to order our roofing slates 600x300 155 plus vat per slate To cover 160mtrs My question is does the price sound ok Also my local merchant has stated that these are grade 1 Spanish slates Although the slates are about 6 mill and vary little in thickness There are silver mineral deposits on the back of each slate Is this normal in a grade 1 slate Should each crate have a certificate Regards Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundtuit Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I've just been slate shopping. Slate quality and the degree of thickness grading seems to vary widely. The conclusion I came to is to stick with an A1 S1 T1 quality grade, and pay a premium for slates that are tightly thickness graded, and/or ensure your roofers do a proper grading job to get them to lay flat. Pyrites inclusions are normal and shouldn't rust on a T1 grade. £1.55 ea seems high; it might be a great slate, but you can get good slates <£1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney12 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) The two lots of G1 Spanish slates I bought in the last 6m were £1.15 each so that does sound a bit toppy even with the exchange rate shift. Its worth find a specialist roofing or slate supplier as certainly not my local Jewsons (whom I've built a good relationship with ) never seem competitive. Edited January 13, 2017 by Barney12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 This makes me glad I accepted a fixed price for my build, it's my builders problem to source/price slates. I have enough to worry about with all the little things ( note, fixed price for all but plumbing, heating, electrics, timber work labour,) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwidewebs Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Slate prices have shot up in the past 2 months. Unfortunately I timed it as bad as I could have! £1.55/slate doesn't sound too bad tbh - what make of slate is it? There is good and bad grade 1 We ended up with Cupa R12 which the roofer was quite impressed with. Aside from the quality of the slate itself they were also flat - it would appear from speaking with him that this isn't always the case and it's quite common to end up with many that are curved, leading to a poor job. We did have some like this, but they formed part of our 'wastage' In case you need it, here is a link to the required headlap http://www.sigaslate.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Minimum-Recommended-Headlaps-For-England.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimpsy Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 We had a couple of prices for Spanish slate, SSQ Del Prado £1.48, and SSQ Del Carmen Standard £1.47 or First £1.60, but this would mean going back to the planners, so we are going to use Sandtoft Rivius a very realistic slate alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triassic Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 I've had to use Burlington slate to meet a planning condition and its cost me £1,200 per tonne inc vat. So 68m2 cost me £4,800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 i thought that planners were not allowed to dictate where slate came from and someone on here cleverely wrote on the back of a Spanish sample the name of his local quarry and it was accepted.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temp Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 8 hours ago, Triassic said: I've had to use Burlington slate to meet a planning condition and its cost me £1,200 per tonne inc vat. So 68m2 cost me £4,800. I am user cwatters on this thread... http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=12337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple07 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) @nod @Roundtuit How did u get on with ur slate prices in the end? We r looking at ordering ours just now, 362m2, and if I hear one more time about Brexit and price increases from suppliers .....i will....I will...ehm....well....not much I can do really....suck it up and accept the bad timing! Edited February 16, 2017 by Triple07 Tagging 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 Hi We managed to get the slate supplier down to 99p per slate 500x250 7mil grade one Make sure you get a certificate 250 a piece for a couple of hundred slate and a half he wouldn't budge on that as I had already placed our order My mistake my order was 225 square mtrs There are loads of company's out there that want your business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nod Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 On 15/01/2017 at 22:24, joe90 said: i thought that planners were not allowed to dictate where slate came from and someone on here cleverely wrote on the back of a Spanish sample the name of his local quarry and it was accepted.? I totally agree Planners tried to dictate Welsh slate for ours looks great last forever Costs a small fortune Our engineer pointed out the same as what you are saying They cant dictate the materials used So they altered the condition to grey blue Riven edged slate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe90 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 To cover my ass on this one I got my plans to say " slate type roofing" just in case I wanted plastic like Jeremy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundtuit Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 In the end, I went for a supply and fix job with a roofing contractor tied in with my pv installation so I lost visibility of the slate price. I expect they can buy better than me doing a one-off job though. I specified the slate however, after seeing about a dozen different samples from builders merchants and independent slate suppliers, so I reckon they were around the £1 mark for 500x250mm (top end of) average blue/black Spanish slate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple07 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Thanks folks TP have surprisingly gave us the best quote of £0.72(+vat) per slate, 7-9mm, A1, S1, T1 , preholed, 400x250mm (16x10) grey Royal Ascot "abbey" slate. if anyone else was working out their M2 of roofing that's 25/m2... Couldn't see any visible pyrites in sample slate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triassic Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Triple07 said: Thanks folks TP have surprisingly gave us the best quote of £0.72(+vat) per slate, 7-9mm, A1, S1, T1 , preholed, 400x250mm (16x10) grey Royal Ascot "abbey" slate. Had a look on the TP web site and can't find any reference to these slates at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Harris Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 11 hours ago, Roundtuit said: In the end, I went for a supply and fix job with a roofing contractor tied in with my pv installation so I lost visibility of the slate price. I expect they can buy better than me doing a one-off job though. I specified the slate however, after seeing about a dozen different samples from builders merchants and independent slate suppliers, so I reckon they were around the £1 mark for 500x250mm (top end of) average blue/black Spanish slate. I did the same in the end, too. I got the best price I could for the "slates" (in our case Ikoslate, which are really plastic) and then found that a big local roofing company quoted a better price, and gave a reasonable guarantee on the whole roof, if they supplied and fitted the slates, so that's what I did. Had I bought the slates I'd not have had as good a guarantee, I'd have been out of pocket for the VAT for a fair time and I'd have paid a little bit more for the slates, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple07 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 13 hours ago, Triassic said: Had a look on the TP web site and can't find any reference to these slates at all? As below, but to be fair, I can't find them online either, hope it helps ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triassic Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 @Triple07, thanks for the information, with a name like "Royal Ascot Abbey Slate", I assume they come from the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexphd1 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 With a name like royal ascot abbey slate i would be very suprised if they came from UK! my last price was cupa heavy 3 (spanish) 40x22 was 76p each. (decent sized order). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple07 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I'm sure they are from Spain, won't hold that against them tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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